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Island of Dawn and Keening Dawn Motes.

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  • feazesherofeazeshero ✭✭✭
    edited October 2016
    Some classes of course will do it faster than others. With brawler and lancer, it's so easy to do them but on a range/melee dps or healer class, it is more difficult to control the boss.

    I have an old video out on my channel when I was in +15 starfall and took me around 15 minutes to kill hydra, giant and naga on my lancer (that time if u get hit, u lose the "hold the line stack"). Since I upgraded to Imperator and also if I have some luck, sometimes I can finish the three bams in 10 minutes now (without bravery/noctenium) if the bams are not spread far from each other and no one is there. There are days I crit a lot but other days I don't crit as much; it's weird. With full HTL stack + keen emote + quatr. brooch is not even 100 percent crit rate from the front lol.

    When I tried the bams on my gunner (slaughter gear), it takes so much longer to kill them because the control is not the same when doing it on a tank class.
  • LancerJivaLancerJiva ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've killed 10 bams with no motes dropping at all.

    Make it 100%. Doing the bams on several alts gets very tedious and very fast. Personally I hate doing it.
  • VirtualONVirtualON ✭✭✭
    edited October 2016
    @BusinessCat you don't get the point, do you?

    With 100% keen mote drop rate, you COULD do bams with DN Priest as fast as DPS in +15 Imperator.

    So people with fewer alts or new players COULD do it easily too.

    Is it too hard for you to understand? Wtf does "doing it wrong" have to do with anything?
  • @VirtualON i get the point.. but you are not supose to make those quests with healer... makin it 100% drop rate will make the quest TOO easy for other classes... "just for the sake of one class let bring back TAR!"
    if you want to defend "IoD for priests" you should ask for a buff on dmg, similiar to ghilliglade, not a 100% drop rate on motes....
  • ObsObs ✭✭✭
    VirtualON wrote: »
    @BusinessCat How are you doing it correctly? Show me your DN priest killing every high-tiered BAm in 20s.

  • ObsObs ✭✭✭
    People use Noctenium Infusion for IoD bams? O_o

    No, I just did it because I'm missing other important DPS gear like a DPS Brooch and Gloves (DN works fine) which a DPS geared Dread Priest would have. The non-mote BAM took 25 seconds. The mote BAM took 10 seconds.
  • HLK76PFWXT wrote: »
    In the NA region they reduced the minimum ilevel requirements for the vanguard requests so that you could kill harder-tier BAMs with a lower ilevel, and they also doubled the items and credits earned from the vanguard quests; as a result, the keening dawn motes were left as is. In EU, they did not change the ilevel requirements or the vanguard credits (at least they didn't at the time, unless they made another change more recently), but instead increased the drop rate for keening dawn motes so it would go faster. Given that vanguards are capped per character per day, I would say that keeping the double credits is preferable, but I guess it's debatable.

    This is actually the reason as of why i started this thread: the items and credits had a certain price when the double bonus happened some four months ago and it was just fine but right now the market value dropped so much that the items and credits are at "half" the value compared to when they got doubled so in other words they are actually not doubled anymore. Is it understandable? They are doubled but they have half the value so they are actually normal.

    Now, is it fine to use this argument anymore with the items and credits being doubled even if their value dropped so much to have the keening dawn mote at 1/9 rate? Right now, we have to either improve the value of the vanguard quests or make the keening dawn mote drop a bit more often ( 100% drop rate is too broken but then again 10% is not nice either so what about 25% drop rate for the mote ).
    Well, the response to inflation should not be to cause even more inflation, otherwise it's just an endless cycle. The rate of earning vanguard credits impacts more than just the tradeable items, so I think it has to be approached with caution. The fact that items are devalued is more to do with other events in the game, and not really due to any particular problem with the rate things are earned from IoD BAMs.

    There's another thread today that's proposing doubling dungeon drop rates permanently too, and it underscores this sort of problem that a lot of people used to be making their money by farming mats and selling them on the broker, and now are having a harder time "making ends meet." But this isn't only due to supply, but also due to demand given that we're nearing the end of a gear cycle. Further devaluing these mats won't really balance the scales, it'll just continue to have cascading consequences that carry over into the next cycle, and people are going to be in for a rude awakening when BHS resets everything. So again, I'm not sure that the answer to things being cheaper is to keep making things easier/faster. (The actual answer is that we need a gold sink, but...)
  • For priest, that is pretty nice to see being able to do damage like that while doing IOD. If set up nicely, priests can do very good damage.
  • VirtualONVirtualON ✭✭✭
    edited October 2016
    Obscumbra wrote: »
    People use Noctenium Infusion for IoD bams? O_o

    No, I just did it because I'm missing other important DPS gear like a DPS Brooch and Gloves (DN works fine) which a DPS geared Dread Priest would have. The non-mote BAM took 25 seconds. The mote BAM took 10 seconds.

    That's 29 seconds. And you even use Noct. Lol. And who the hell buys brooch and get dps gear for healer alt just for IoD. Sorry but pointless video.
    Show me how fast do you kill 10 giants ?
    Now imagine you have keen motes all the time like in EU, you kill everything in 10s with schisma even. That is my point.
  • VirtualON wrote: »
    Now imagine you have keen motes all the time like in EU, you kill everything in 10s with schisma even. That is my point.

    thats is what we should avoid... why turn that thing THAT easy? do want even more mindless farming? because thats how u get ultra mindless farming
  • ppl want all easy, ppl dont want to farm, ppl aways crying, you dont need more green motes, you need to stop crying and go farm, it is a ACTION game, go kill the bam, is harder to you? so upgrade u set, ohh u cant upgrade? DELETE the exiled realm of arborea of your PC, Simple.
  • ObsObs ✭✭✭
    edited October 2016
    VirtualON wrote: »
    Obscumbra wrote: »
    People use Noctenium Infusion for IoD bams? O_o

    No, I just did it because I'm missing other important DPS gear like a DPS Brooch and Gloves (DN works fine) which a DPS geared Dread Priest would have. The non-mote BAM took 25 seconds. The mote BAM took 10 seconds.

    That's 29 seconds. And you even use Noct. Lol. And who the [filtered] buys brooch and get dps gear for healer alt just for IoD. Sorry but pointless video.
    Show me how fast do you kill 10 giants ?
    Now imagine you have keen motes all the time like in EU, you kill everything in 10s with schisma even. That is my point.

    Started at 0:07-0:08. Ended at 0:33-0:34. That's not 29 seconds. And as I said I used Noct to make up for the fact that I'm missing a lot of cheap bonuses that you can use.

    Sorry that you can't spend 5k to get DPS Dread gloves to +12 since it's just an IoD farmer for you. You can even go for a DPS topline on your chest and leave that at +9. Simple Empowered/QC Brooch is fine. I'm using a Cleansing Brooch and don't have Crit Inners or temp etchings. You can definitely do better. I didn't even do that well with rotation as I missed out on using a Tornado and didn't start with a TN.
  • VirtualONVirtualON ✭✭✭
    edited October 2016
    Obscumbra wrote: »
    VirtualON wrote: »
    Obscumbra wrote: »
    People use Noctenium Infusion for IoD bams? O_o

    No, I just did it because I'm missing other important DPS gear like a DPS Brooch and Gloves (DN works fine) which a DPS geared Dread Priest would have. The non-mote BAM took 25 seconds. The mote BAM took 10 seconds.

    That's 29 seconds. And you even use Noct. Lol. And who the [filtered] buys brooch and get dps gear for healer alt just for IoD. Sorry but pointless video.
    Show me how fast do you kill 10 giants ?
    Now imagine you have keen motes all the time like in EU, you kill everything in 10s with schisma even. That is my point.

    Started at 0:07-0:08. Ended at 0:33-0:34. That's not 29 seconds. And as I said I used Noct to make up for the fact that I'm missing a lot of cheap bonuses that you can use.

    Sorry that you can't spend 5k to get DPS Dread gloves to +12 since it's just an IoD farmer for you. You can even go for a DPS topline on your chest and leave that at +9. Simple Empowered/QC Brooch is fine. I'm using a Cleansing Brooch and don't have Crit Inners or temp etchings. You can definitely do better. I didn't even do that well with rotation as I missed out on using a Tornado and didn't start with a TN.

    Yeah but it's not the point. You can kill 1000 bams and record the fastest maybe in 20 seconds but what will you prove then? I said 20 seconds randomly because i never do IoD with Priest so i overestimated it. With keen motes you can kill them way faster in any case.
  • feazesherofeazeshero ✭✭✭
    edited October 2016
    VirtualON wrote: »
    Obscumbra wrote: »
    People use Noctenium Infusion for IoD bams? O_o

    No, I just did it because I'm missing other important DPS gear like a DPS Brooch and Gloves (DN works fine) which a DPS geared Dread Priest would have. The non-mote BAM took 25 seconds. The mote BAM took 10 seconds.

    That's 29 seconds. And you even use Noct. Lol. And who the [filtered] buys brooch and get dps gear for healer alt just for IoD. Sorry but pointless video.
    Show me how fast do you kill 10 giants ?
    Now imagine you have keen motes all the time like in EU, you kill everything in 10s with schisma even. That is my point.

    That video is not pointless but it rather does show some points. One that it shows if a priest is geared even decently and also has decent setup/rotations, can finish bams quests in a respectable amount of time. Heck this is even better than some brawlers to be honest. I've heard stories and also seen myself one time where a brawler spent 1 minute trying to kill a bam, which is really bad. Even though the priest uses noctenium in this video, it's because is missing other things like innerwear/etchings and without those still doing decent damage.

    This video also helps a lot of people who play priest class and are not as famililar or never knew that they can do damage like this because most healers are used to the healing part when doing things. Another thing is that some people may only have healer classes so this is an option they'd have to go for if they don't have alt classes.

    Maybe in EU it's different than in NA so that is also one thing to keep in mind before judging someone else from a different region. Some people have to be so elitist even about little things and don't see the big picture of what is being portrayed.
  • Also having keen emote is nice at times but if you depend on it too much then you're really not depending on your own class. In farming, you have to really earn everything and if everything is too easy then what's the point in farming then. At least people need to be thankful that we have keen emote drop at times rather than not having it all period.
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