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FWC - Fully EQ - Bring it back

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Mentality of FWC right now.... is quite sad.

Winning team:
Zerg around the map picking off a few of the people still active during the round.

Losing team:
Wait at spawn for match to be over.
Hide in water if you are lucky enough to reach it.

Why not have the BG fully EQ'd again? It would even the teams up and make the BG FUN for everyone.

I have been on the winning and losing side of a FWC. There is rarely a "close" match. It's usually 2K+ difference.

Bring it back. tyvm.
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Comments

  • There would be even less of a reason to gear up for PvP at all. The only reasons for PvP gear are Alliance, GvG, Team 3s, and Fraywind. Alliance is mostly dead, GvG crusade rankings are leaving soon, and Team 3s queues are hard to come by unless you communicate between groups and/or servers.

    There shouldn't be as much of a need to equalize Fraywind anyway since the new PvP gear is maxing out at +12. It should be accessible enough to the aspiring PvPers out there.
  • FaunBaitFaunBait ✭✭✭
    I completely agree that something has to be done about this. 50% agree about EQ gear in FWC. Although it would be nice having EQ, theres a reason why I gear my characters. If this was EQ, why will I even gear pvp anymore, only for 1 BG which is 3s, now that Gridiron is EQ...

    If FWC does become EQ, is it even worth getting PvP gear anymore? To PK people outside? To duel in VElikas Outskirts? 3s?
  • HazezoidHazezoid ✭✭✭
    There was a reason why EQ fraywind was removed. No one likes being in equalized. The queue for equalized fraywind never popped and in the end the bg was removed.
    Equalized gear won't do anything. CS is the perfect example of that the matches in there are 1 sided even with equalized gear. The more skilled players will always win.
  • Hazezoid wrote: »
    There was a reason why EQ fraywind was removed. No one likes being in equalized. The queue for equalized fraywind never popped and in the end the bg was removed.
    Equalized gear won't do anything. CS is the perfect example of that the matches in there are 1 sided even with equalized gear. The more skilled players will always win.

    EQ FWC Popped in under 1 minute for me consistently for over 3months, however I did take a long break from Tera after that.

    CS is busy I would say 90% of the time and can get a pop (party of 5) in under 3 minutes. Yes CS can be 1 sided if there is enough skilled players on one team vs ones that are not. (Not sure now how things will be with all the ninja patch changes)
    I do not believe EQ Gear to be the problem in CS, as it is the most popular BG.... for a reason?
  • HazezoidHazezoid ✭✭✭
    GotBuffs wrote: »
    Hazezoid wrote: »
    There was a reason why EQ fraywind was removed. No one likes being in equalized. The queue for equalized fraywind never popped and in the end the bg was removed.
    Equalized gear won't do anything. CS is the perfect example of that the matches in there are 1 sided even with equalized gear. The more skilled players will always win.

    EQ FWC Popped in under 1 minute for me consistently for over 3months, however I did take a long break from Tera after that.

    CS is busy I would say 90% of the time and can get a pop (party of 5) in under 3 minutes. Yes CS can be 1 sided if there is enough skilled players on one team vs ones that are not. (Not sure now how things will be with all the ninja patch changes)
    I do not believe EQ Gear to be the problem in CS, as it is the most popular BG.... for a reason?

    CS is the most popular bg not because of equalized but because it's the ONLY bg that lowbies can queue for. Now it doesn't pop because it's 65 only. Kumas same thing it was popular because lowbies made it pop but died once it became 65 only. So equalized doesn't mean squat.
  • Mobius1Mobius1 ✭✭✭
    edited May 2016
    I don't mind non-equazed for everyone in FWC. I don't see that as being the root of the problem. But I certainly don't think it would hurt.

    The reason FWC pops is because it has the best reward (BC and KS creds), and the new BG shop items make it worthwhile. It has nothing to do with it being non-equazed. In fact, past evidence shows that the opposite is true, and queue times are slower because of it.

    But honestly, I think the issues with FWC are elsewhere, as I listed in my other FWC post on this forum.

    And just to throw it in there, I have EQ gear when I play FWC, and have little issues with it.
  • Better yet, auto-convert crystals for people who are brainless and use monster crystals in there. Let's hold everyone's hand. EQ gear will always be [filtered] bad because the developers don't even know what rolls pvpers prefer (see the new equalized gear with NO stun duration red. on earings)
  • MildLife wrote: »
    Better yet, auto-convert crystals for people who are brainless and use monster crystals in there. Let's hold everyone's hand. EQ gear will always be [filtered] bad because the developers don't even know what rolls pvpers prefer (see the new equalized gear with NO stun duration red. on earings)

    Actually, hand holding the brainless would make Tera BGs a lot less cancerous to the people who actually play a BG to pvp/win. I am fully supportive of that lol.

    I agree EQ gear is total crap but from my past experience with FWC EQ, it was FAST pops, busy literally all times of the day and teams were HAPPY, not sitting in spawn afk just to get points and avoid the massive zerg. It is NOT fun on either side (at least imo)
  • Mobius1Mobius1 ✭✭✭
    Honestly, if you truly want to get to the root of the problem.....it's that BHS thinks that our idea of fun PvP is running around as baby Kumas.
  • Ilyphia wrote: »
    There would be even less of a reason to gear up for PvP at all. The only reasons for PvP gear are Alliance, GvG, Team 3s, and Fraywind. Alliance is mostly dead, GvG crusade rankings are leaving soon, and Team 3s queues are hard to come by unless you communicate between groups and/or servers.

    There shouldn't be as much of a need to equalize Fraywind anyway since the new PvP gear is maxing out at +12. It should be accessible enough to the aspiring PvPers out there.

    I'm a returning player and quit during the Generation patch, what is this about new PVP gear maxing out at +12? What about +15 gear is it not going to be for PVP?
  • nope no +15 for pvp gear as vp gear will be equilized at +12 gear now unless using tensus
  • Anyone know the minimum ilevel to use our own gear? Before ninja patch, my full +12 starfall priest could use her gear but now she's forced to use the equalized gear even though her ilvl is 410. I see other party member who have 412 but they're in their legitimate gear.

    Is it 411 or 412 minimum?
  • EishaaEishaa ✭✭
    2Hearts wrote: »
    Is it 411 or 412 minimum?

    Pretty sure it's 412. I just started playing FWC and my char's Ilvl is 411 and I get put in the EQ gear. If your friend is 412 and gets to keep her own gear, then 412 is definitely the minimum requirement.
  • AyiAyi ✭✭✭
    +15 Tensus gets put into EQ gear. Sounds nice.
  • ArdireArdire ✭✭✭✭✭
    412 minimum ilvl???? holy smokes

    no more FWC for me

    p.s. eq stuff is awful and you should definitely not want it back. what we should be asking for is no auto-stick-you-in-eq-crap if you don't reach a certain ilvl.
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