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Patch Notes 48.04 – Portentous Rebirth

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  • edited October 2016
    Spacecats wrote: »
    Thanks! You're fast!

    So... from what Treeshark said, it almost seems like the robot arms were added during the creation of the costume. I don't want to derail this thread, but is there evidence of robo-less versions in other regions, or was this just a case of the promo images being a little different from the ones that made it to the game?

    It is actually present today in EU. I'll load up the game and post a picture from their Dressing Room in just a sec.

    Edit: Okay, actually, I was sure that I had seen it in-game before in EU, but looking at the Fashion Coupon store now the only the ones they have showing are the ones we have, and the only version they have available on the cash shop are the same as we have now. So either a) they never had it and I was just imagining things, or b) it was some sort of mistake and they've since removed it. It's probably the former -- maybe indeed I was just thinking of the various promotions that used the wrong art.
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ginjitsu wrote: »
    I'm not criticizing any of the PC members nor using them as scapegoats, but what can anyone do when feedback is provided to help improve Tera and nothing is done.
    A lot of it is up to BHS though, yelling at EME isn't going to convince BHS to do anything. Even if EME has a plan, all it takes is for BHS to say no and that is the end of that.
  • Spacecats wrote: »
    Thanks! You're fast!

    So... from what Treeshark said, it almost seems like the robot arms were added during the creation of the costume. I don't want to derail this thread, but is there evidence of robo-less versions in other regions, or was this just a case of the promo images being a little different from the ones that made it to the game?

    It is actually present today in EU. I'll load up the game and post a picture from their Dressing Room in just a sec.
    Oh nice. I don't have anything other than the promotional images and Google didn't bring up much.
  • edited October 2016
    StarSprite wrote: »
    Spacecats wrote: »
    Thanks! You're fast!

    So... from what Treeshark said, it almost seems like the robot arms were added during the creation of the costume. I don't want to derail this thread, but is there evidence of robo-less versions in other regions, or was this just a case of the promo images being a little different from the ones that made it to the game?

    It is actually present today in EU. I'll load up the game and post a picture from their Dressing Room in just a sec.
    Oh nice. I don't have anything other than the promotional images and Google didn't bring up much.

    Yeah, sorry, see my edit above but I was wrong. At the very least, if it ever was in EU, it's not there now. At the moment they have the same as us.
  • EndevaEndeva ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Ginjitsu wrote: »
    I'm not criticizing any of the PC members nor using them as scapegoats, but what can anyone do when feedback is provided to help improve Tera and nothing is done.
    A lot of it is up to BHS though, yelling at EME isn't going to convince BHS to do anything. Even if EME has a plan, all it takes is for BHS to say no and that is the end of that.

    So just blame everything on Bluehoe and give up?
  • Spacecats wrote: »
    Thanks! You're fast!

    So... from what Treeshark said, it almost seems like the robot arms were added during the creation of the costume. I don't want to derail this thread, but is there evidence of robo-less versions in other regions, or was this just a case of the promo images being a little different from the ones that made it to the game?

    It is actually present today in EU. I'll load up the game and post a picture from their Dressing Room in just a sec.

    Edit: Okay, actually, I was sure that I had seen it in-game before in EU, but looking at the Fashion Coupon store now the only the ones they have showing are the ones we have, and the only version they have available on the cash shop are the same as we have now. So either a) they never had it and I was just imagining things, or b) it was some sort of mistake and they've since removed it. It's probably the former -- maybe indeed I was just thinking of the various promotions that used the wrong art.

    ayy no robo arm steampunk gotchu
    http://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/5548/costumes-guild-castle
  • Spacecats wrote: »
    Thanks! You're fast!

    So... from what Treeshark said, it almost seems like the robot arms were added during the creation of the costume. I don't want to derail this thread, but is there evidence of robo-less versions in other regions, or was this just a case of the promo images being a little different from the ones that made it to the game?

    It is actually present today in EU. I'll load up the game and post a picture from their Dressing Room in just a sec.

    Edit: Okay, actually, I was sure that I had seen it in-game before in EU, but looking at the Fashion Coupon store now the only the ones they have showing are the ones we have, and the only version they have available on the cash shop are the same as we have now. So either a) they never had it and I was just imagining things, or b) it was some sort of mistake and they've since removed it. It's probably the former -- maybe indeed I was just thinking of the various promotions that used the wrong art.

    ayy no robo arm steampunk gotchu
    http://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/5548/costumes-guild-castle

    You're the hero we need ty
  • Spacecats wrote: »
    I understand money needs to be made, but backlash about this would have been a lot easier if they did not implement dragons at all until they fixed whatever needed fixing and added both loot box and normal version in the store.

    Considering how much backlash stems from the sheer fact that players REALLY want dragon mounts, I think you underestimate the level of upset that would have been generated from not releasing any dragons whatsoever. If I could talk to alternate-history Spacecats and ask him how things went when we delayed all dragon mounts, I would, but I still hold that the proper decision was made in our timeline by allowing players to get Ghost and Diamond dragons since they were totally unaffected by they delays attached to Iron and Crimson. The most unfortunate part is how long it has taken to get an Iron and Crimson follow up to that decision, but I assure you they're on the way and that info will be released soon.
    I've been waiting so long for the animated cat hats that @Denommenator talked in a livestream about 1 year ago. EME always promises things that are never made, this is annoying, at this point I gave up with the free version of the dragons.
    Lie about EME milking people with paid version of the dragons will not change the fact that you guys are actually doing it.
  • salE983 wrote: »
    Our version is released even more as-is compared to EU. We got nothing from SSHM except vm7 mats, just like in Ktera. In EU they got 40 mwas/run. I can't bring myself to get the sshm title.

    Mwas cost 60g in EU because half of the mwa supplies are in form of untradeable personal mwa.

    What proofs do you have to show that EU Tera is more p2w and grindy? I have to remind you that in EU quatrefoil brooch costs like 80-90k, etching iii 50k, vm7 designs 4-5K, SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE PATCH.

    Next patch I'm sure our vm8 designs will cost 500-600k.

    The only thing we really have it easier is SES and maybe MES.
    The economies of EU and NA are completely different from end-to-end because of some very different decisions in how they've handled drops for years, starting all the way back from MWA boxes being added to Vanguard Rep in our build. Even a direct comparison of gold-to-gold isn't equivalent because they haven't had the same events and circumstances to increase the gold earning rate (or the equivalent gold trading rate) or the credit/item earning rate from Vanguard. One build will make it harder to earn designs, the other build will make it harder to earn enchanting materials. One build will add new drops to dungeons, another will add a new item table to PvP credit merchants. Things like Ghilliglade are completely different due to an entirely different entry system, so it's used to provide rewards there that aren't here because they're earned elsewhere here. Drop table for DSU was also completely different between the builds. So it's nearly impossible to just do a direct side by side between the two builds. Things that are cheaper in one will be more expensive in the other and vice-versa. The impression of most EU players who have played on NA is that the overall cost of gearing up is cheaper on NA, but there are some specific things that are cheaper on EU. It's just a completely different approach.

    i only talked about applying civil unrest patch nothing else, everything you stated is true, and yes on NA is easier to +15 anything but i am saying about pure amateurs leading eme atm, how can others (Japanese tera as well) have it work 100% correctly while NA is the only one that failed...3 weeks in a row :D
  • NikuroTegaNikuroTega ✭✭✭✭
    JasonLucas wrote: »
    Spacecats wrote: »
    I understand money needs to be made, but backlash about this would have been a lot easier if they did not implement dragons at all until they fixed whatever needed fixing and added both loot box and normal version in the store.

    Considering how much backlash stems from the sheer fact that players REALLY want dragon mounts, I think you underestimate the level of upset that would have been generated from not releasing any dragons whatsoever. If I could talk to alternate-history Spacecats and ask him how things went when we delayed all dragon mounts, I would, but I still hold that the proper decision was made in our timeline by allowing players to get Ghost and Diamond dragons since they were totally unaffected by they delays attached to Iron and Crimson. The most unfortunate part is how long it has taken to get an Iron and Crimson follow up to that decision, but I assure you they're on the way and that info will be released soon.
    I've been waiting so long for the animated cat hats that @Denommenator talked in a livestream about 1 year ago. EME always promises things that are never made, this is annoying, at this point I gave up with the free version of the dragons.
    Lie about EME milking people with paid version of the dragons will not change the fact that you guys are actually doing it.

    Have you ever considered that maybe there were legal issues with those items? Perhaps it was mentioned that their release were canceled and you so happened to miss that information? You should also consider that BHS decided not to release that item(s) in NA.

  • edited October 2016
    salE983 wrote: »
    i am saying about pure amateurs leading eme atm, how can others (Japanese tera as well) have it work 100% correctly while NA is the only one that failed...3 weeks in a row :D
    That issue was already explained repeatedly. It's a very specific bug that had to do with timezones on the EME live servers that were unique to the EME servers and not common to other publishers or the test servers. That's why it was working on their test servers and in all other regions, but not on the live servers. It was only after the second failure, and the test launch where they added extra server logs, that BHS could finally find and fix their bug. There were complicating circumstances during the first failure (a separate bug that caused a server crash) that led them down a wrong path to think this bug was connected to that, but they found out the second week that it was not related.

    There are faults with the way the situation was handled in my opinion (mostly not being there live on the second weekend), but the plain facts of the way the bug manifested itself given the nature of the issue make perfect sense. Some bugs are such that they are really hard to reproduce. Even the largest software companies in the world run into bugs like this all the time.
  • Wait are u serious right now? You were complaining about the "delay" of the next patch and the missing informations about the release date and in an blick of an eye u switched to a complete useless topic which is about steampunk costumes because u want one without a stupid robot arm? Are u even serious right now? Is this still tera? Who the hell cares if this stupid outfit got 1 robot arm or none this outfit looks like sh*t anyway. Besides that u are always complaining even about upcoming costumes because it really looks like u want some new costumes like they were teased in korea BUT still u cant get over an old ugly costume? Tbh honest here the alice dress is a shame that we cant have that but PLEASE its just a stupid costum everyone would replace after 2 months anyway so who cares? Someone asked ealier for a player who plays both regions activly here you go. EU is pretty cancer concidering the BIG splitt between high end geared players and casuals and 97% of the high end players activly invest money to get geared up because u need to OR you need to be unemployeed and farm your [filtered] of for that "cool" mwa dungeon drop. You know that eu has to pay 400 instead of 200 VC for the same amount of ma right? You also blame EME for beeing worse than EU n stuff did u really forgot about the mongo event? Just like 6 weeks past since that AWESOME event and u totally forgot about that. Many people could finish their gear before the next content, many people could safed a lot of many cuz of that even all for the next conent and u are complaining. We got the patches 1-3 weeks ealier then EU since many many years and now EU got this 1 patch like 1-2 weeks ealier and everyone goes crazy. EME always teases a content like that or do you guys remember any kind of date before the secret & shadows event? No! But I always guessed the right release date because eme got a very solid translating and preparing time. I guessed the release date of ninja patch 5 months before the patch went live. I predicted the new patch for very late october or early nov till 10th of november and we will get this patch in this time zone you'll see so calm down everyone. You totally forget about the fact that norma things like ccb, elite benefits, ses, mes and such a stuff EVERYONE here need but nobody even notice that its not that cheap and ez everywhere. EU can start the content 1-2 weeks ealier and? Most of us will get their lilith/vm8 gear to +15 like weeks or months ealier because we do have a solid economic where trading is very smooth and easy. You cant even find any +15 stuff on eu on broker you know why? Because liberation scrolls costs about 150k so what are u complaining about? You guys are sitting in a nice place, you got tv u got food you got nice jobs and you are mad that fckn south africa gets their food 1 week ealier? please stop that and get a hobby or another time consuming activity. I really understand you guys because its really annoying getting teased for so long and u are the very last who will get this excitement but its just a content. In 2 months ppl are complaining that this game is dead again and we will wait for the next content it wont change I promise you. So dont waste your time on beeing mad just try to enjoy the waiting because we will get it soon for sure. And for all those ppl who are wondering why EU is faster: EU had a contract so they could translate the korean version into english n stuff by their own and they dont have to wait for eme anymore. Surely EU wants to use this first patch as an opporunity for "haha we got the contract now we faster" but in 1.2 months they wont even bother what will happen to the game anymore as long as people are spending money for things they want. Ive created a short recap of things, prices compared to EU/NA on my tumbrl feel free to watch if you are interested: https://www.tumblr.com/blog/nisothesorc

    But for here is a small example: Remember the new weapon cover? EU deals with this kind of things in 2 ways: 1 rng boxes (but more exoensive then on NA) AND "im rich so [filtered] u box" this box costs 4200 TT (emp) which equals 220€ which is around 233$ or so. For having the costume, weapon cover, mount 100% for sure. I think thats [filtered] af because the loot u get from regular rng boxes are [filtered]. We got like 50 stacks of alkahest in those dragin boxes which is REALLY good because on eu you can buy 15 stacks of mwa and 10 keys (for boxes) for 6$

    EME is having some troubles lately but I dont prefer the 130 ping over the 25 ping on eu if its not for eme because Im playing on NA since 2 years now and I never regret it.
  • edited October 2016
    Spacecats wrote: »
    Thanks! You're fast!

    So... from what Treeshark said, it almost seems like the robot arms were added during the creation of the costume. I don't want to derail this thread, but is there evidence of robo-less versions in other regions, or was this just a case of the promo images being a little different from the ones that made it to the game?

    It is actually present today in EU. I'll load up the game and post a picture from their Dressing Room in just a sec.

    Edit: Okay, actually, I was sure that I had seen it in-game before in EU, but looking at the Fashion Coupon store now the only the ones they have showing are the ones we have, and the only version they have available on the cash shop are the same as we have now. So either a) they never had it and I was just imagining things, or b) it was some sort of mistake and they've since removed it. It's probably the former -- maybe indeed I was just thinking of the various promotions that used the wrong art.

    ayy no robo arm steampunk gotchu
    http://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/5548/costumes-guild-castle

    The key question is whether it is actually still there in K-TERA and if they ever sold it. I thought it was in EU too, but it's definitely not there now anyway -- not on the broker, not in the cash shop, not in the dressing room. I guess maybe it's only in skycastles? Maybe it was never released on the store in EU either, and only on the store in K-TERA?

    In any case, if it's on the skycastle store, at least it's "there."
  • Oh ok wait I forgot something. If you still think EU is better go ahead and try to download the game ... OH WAIT it will take you about 18 hrs to even download n patch the game because the client is the worst thing ever. I also wanted to patch the new content today but wait it is 35 GB big. Im sure we will get a small patch on NA just saying. And yes, I got one of the best internet connection you can buy here with my old connection it took me 3 days and some of my friends tried over 1 week cuz this [filtered] client just freezes if u try to download over night or longer than 4 hrs straight
  • NikuroTega wrote: »
    JasonLucas wrote: »
    Spacecats wrote: »
    I understand money needs to be made, but backlash about this would have been a lot easier if they did not implement dragons at all until they fixed whatever needed fixing and added both loot box and normal version in the store.

    Considering how much backlash stems from the sheer fact that players REALLY want dragon mounts, I think you underestimate the level of upset that would have been generated from not releasing any dragons whatsoever. If I could talk to alternate-history Spacecats and ask him how things went when we delayed all dragon mounts, I would, but I still hold that the proper decision was made in our timeline by allowing players to get Ghost and Diamond dragons since they were totally unaffected by they delays attached to Iron and Crimson. The most unfortunate part is how long it has taken to get an Iron and Crimson follow up to that decision, but I assure you they're on the way and that info will be released soon.
    I've been waiting so long for the animated cat hats that @Denommenator talked in a livestream about 1 year ago. EME always promises things that are never made, this is annoying, at this point I gave up with the free version of the dragons.
    Lie about EME milking people with paid version of the dragons will not change the fact that you guys are actually doing it.
    Have you ever considered that maybe there were legal issues with those items? Perhaps it was mentioned that their release were canceled and you so happened to miss that information? You should also consider that BHS decided not to release that item(s) in NA.
    These items are already in the game, they just don't have animations as ktera ones does.
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