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Regarding state of PvE / PvP

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  • TBH FWC isn't the top hardest PvP content either. You mainly zerg people with better geared/ premade party than display individual skills. If anything, I would compare FWC to gearing dungeons like CW, DF, LKNM, SSNM. I have no problem seeing those dungeons with equalized gear lol.
  • Amp up the rewards for Skyring and FWC, and it'll pop more. Change the level requirement to 20 or 30 for CS, and it'll pop more.
    Equalized gear is saving BG's, I rarely que'd FWC before because I knew I was going to get destroyed by a cash warrior.
  • I actually prefer EQ PvP. Would be ideal if only the base gear mirrored my gears rolls.

    People keep refusing to accept how much the current +15 gear influences the outcome. We had a DPS player in guild that barely managed a 1:1 K/D ratio in FWC with Conflate gear. He bought up to full +15 Imp and his K/D ratio skyrocketed to 10:1.

    I prefer to win because I'm more skilled, but will agree that the preset gear makes assumptions about how we're expected to play a certain class.

    That anecdote doesn't really mean all that much because I've got friends/guildies in full conflate who'd go into FWC and completely destroy people as well as guildies in +15 that would end up with a like 2/7/10 stat line. I mean, I despise +15 as much as anyone else but you're really overstating how much it makes a difference vs conflate especially in a BG like FWC. I mean you could argue in favor of equalized gear, and there are some legitimate arguments. People made the same arguments with VM vs Conjunct back in the day. But the end of the day it's killed the BG. Before the patch in primetime it'd only take a few minutes to pop. Now I can sit for over an hour and not see it pop at all. I don't care what anyone thinks about unequalized vs equalized. It killed the BG and that's not good for anyone.

    Also PVPing without stun reduction on earrings is like forcing people to pve without crystals. It's so basic and fundamental that not having it can straight up ruin the experience.
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    Whoa, u think fwc is balanced around equalized gear? Lol., yea no dps check, but i should remind u, dread armor wrong rolled in rmhm means the boss breathe on u and u die.
    And you think it's any more balanced around gear? BHS has always failed to keep pvp balanced whether it is EQ or Gear based, and they don't even balance classes well. As for EQ pve, remind me how it makes any difference when the last few instances have revolved around complete 1 shots, many of which deal a flat HP damage, meaning armor has no impact on this. Even the high damage attacks reduced by armor still have completely killed a full hp +15 even in some normal modes.
  • I actually prefer EQ PvP. Would be ideal if only the base gear mirrored my gears rolls.

    People keep refusing to accept how much the current +15 gear influences the outcome. We had a DPS player in guild that barely managed a 1:1 K/D ratio in FWC with Conflate gear. He bought up to full +15 Imp and his K/D ratio skyrocketed to 10:1.

    I prefer to win because I'm more skilled, but will agree that the preset gear makes assumptions about how we're expected to play a certain class.

    If your friend went 1:1 in FWC with conflate, it has nothing to do with the gear. I've had better ratios with dreadnaught before the patch in FWC on alts I barely played. Outcomes in FWC come from many different things. Gear is definitely a factor, but the most important thing is the people you party up with. Giving me EQ gear doesn't mean i'm going to lose to you, i'll still win every game that I would have normally won without EQ gear, it just means that there is no reason for me to play FWC.

    PvP'ers have always been [filtered] on in TERA. You can't even get BiS PvP gear in this game without grinding the newest PvE content. The credit cost of the mats are also ridiculously high compared to how easy everything is to get in PvE. PvP achievements don't even count towards laurels.

    EQ gear also removes any sort of progression which is absolutely ridiculous. If EQ gear were optimized to mirror any relevant PvP set out currently it wouldn't be as much of an issue. If you look at soloq 3v3, MEDIOCRE ninjas, warriors, and reapers dominate games where they otherwise wouldn't be as successful if the gear was balanced. Any class with a stun combo is incredibly powerful. Healers can be 1 combo'd by every single dps class in the game. I'm not a fan of +15, but terrible EQ gear isn't the solution.

    I agree with the OP's point, and I believe that equalizing PvP was just another way to pander to PvE'ers. If you are going to destroy progression for a specific part of the playerbase, then just destroy it for everyone.

    Keep the EQ gear for CS, Kumas, and Battle Tanks. Just don't take away the little amount of content we have to pander to players who have never tried to learn how to PvP.
  • BronzeTube wrote: »
    I actually prefer EQ PvP. Would be ideal if only the base gear mirrored my gears rolls.

    People keep refusing to accept how much the current +15 gear influences the outcome. We had a DPS player in guild that barely managed a 1:1 K/D ratio in FWC with Conflate gear. He bought up to full +15 Imp and his K/D ratio skyrocketed to 10:1.

    I prefer to win because I'm more skilled, but will agree that the preset gear makes assumptions about how we're expected to play a certain class.

    That anecdote doesn't really mean all that much because I've got friends/guildies in full conflate who'd go into FWC and completely destroy people as well as guildies in +15 that would end up with a like 2/7/10 stat line. I mean, I despise +15 as much as anyone else but you're really overstating how much it makes a difference vs conflate especially in a BG like FWC. I mean you could argue in favor of equalized gear, and there are some legitimate arguments. People made the same arguments with VM vs Conjunct back in the day. But the end of the day it's killed the BG. Before the patch in primetime it'd only take a few minutes to pop. Now I can sit for over an hour and not see it pop at all. I don't care what anyone thinks about unequalized vs equalized. It killed the BG and that's not good for anyone.

    Also PVPing without stun reduction on earrings is like forcing people to pve without crystals. It's so basic and fundamental that not having it can straight up ruin the experience.

    When I start to play Tera I never used cristals for PvE.

    I got to lvl 65 and do almost every run without them, until few months ago when I got to many of them and where ready to sell them for gold at merchant's place but for my amusement they were sold for 0 copper, then I started to equipe them and sell them at broker.

    Cristals were my main gold income but when they were nerfed (0 gold from merchants) I started to use them.
  • aeee98aeee98 ✭✭✭✭
    MW54WC5MC9 wrote: »
    BronzeTube wrote: »
    I actually prefer EQ PvP. Would be ideal if only the base gear mirrored my gears rolls.

    People keep refusing to accept how much the current +15 gear influences the outcome. We had a DPS player in guild that barely managed a 1:1 K/D ratio in FWC with Conflate gear. He bought up to full +15 Imp and his K/D ratio skyrocketed to 10:1.

    I prefer to win because I'm more skilled, but will agree that the preset gear makes assumptions about how we're expected to play a certain class.

    That anecdote doesn't really mean all that much because I've got friends/guildies in full conflate who'd go into FWC and completely destroy people as well as guildies in +15 that would end up with a like 2/7/10 stat line. I mean, I despise +15 as much as anyone else but you're really overstating how much it makes a difference vs conflate especially in a BG like FWC. I mean you could argue in favor of equalized gear, and there are some legitimate arguments. People made the same arguments with VM vs Conjunct back in the day. But the end of the day it's killed the BG. Before the patch in primetime it'd only take a few minutes to pop. Now I can sit for over an hour and not see it pop at all. I don't care what anyone thinks about unequalized vs equalized. It killed the BG and that's not good for anyone.

    Also PVPing without stun reduction on earrings is like forcing people to pve without crystals. It's so basic and fundamental that not having it can straight up ruin the experience.

    When I start to play Tera I never used cristals for PvE.

    I got to lvl 65 and do almost every run without them, until few months ago when I got to many of them and where ready to sell them for gold at merchant's place but for my amusement they were sold for 0 copper, then I started to equipe them and sell them at broker.

    Cristals were my main gold income but when they were nerfed (0 gold from merchants) I started to use them.

    If you are serious you are the guy that I constantly kick on a regular basis. :P

    Back to topic...

    We really just want to have a balance of EQ and non-EQ battlegrounds. Heck even +15 isn't much of a reason, most of the pure PvErs that have +15 Starfall can't even kill me as a Priest in Dreadnaught lmao.

    To say zerging isn't a skill is only 50% true. Because if that is the case why isn't the opposite happening as well? It is not like pure PvPers have hacking powers and can get out of dodges with no effort.

    What killed the experience for non-EQ FWC for PvE players isn't entirely the gear. It is the players themselves who put themselves into an idea that they are just there for credits. There is nothing fun in a game where you just play for x reward. You don't enter a

    The part about PvE players needing to play PvP for the PvP jewelry is a joke. When those jewelry came out, Kumas was a thing. If you call that PvP I don't know what real PvP is anymore. Especially when the amount of credits you actually get for doing something that isn't PvP is really laughable.
  • What i think when i check my gear...

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    When i check my gears...
  • What i think when i check my gear...

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  • I dont quite understand this comic xD
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