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Vote kicked out of LKNM for using Slaughter +12 gear

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  • Felhammer wrote: »
    I see. Hmm people in IMS kick for multiple reasons.



    Or people do what happened to me recently. They tank first boss then drop party for some BS reasons. In IMS that really sucks for a party. Tanks are in short supply now. I know there's one less on MT because I quit brawler.
    People often need only boots from lknm, after that they drop or disband usually.
  • HaloistHaloist ✭✭✭
    edited November 2016
    FKXERYHFT4 wrote: »
    The fact that some people are using IMS to play with other people from other servers and even control who gets to join the party turns IMS into a Cross Server LFG, those people are already getting exactly what they want, so why not give them the ability to do just that and let IMS be what it was intended to be.

    I sort of agree with this. IIRC there are games that support cross server LFG, for example BnS, where people join a lobby and either make their own room or join someone else's room. Would be great if TERA had that feature too, together with the IMS feature. Would save many people a lot of trouble by giving them more ways to form parties.
    That said, I also get the feeling that this was purposely omitted to cash-in on server transfers. /shrugs

    aeee98 wrote: »
    I personally initiate votekick when it is very apparant that the player is really afk. 2.5mins spend on loading is a very long amount of time, and if you are doing something else in the meantime you could at least give a heads up.

    I also initiate votekick on midtier dungeons when I know I can't dps/tank/heal carry a person who doesn't even bother to get himself a cheap crystalbind and has incomplete crystals.

    Prior to this patch I have accidentally got myself kicked because I used the wrong crystals for the wrong situation (PvP crystals for PvE and viceversa), but I make that mistake many more times than I have been kicked, and I fix that really quickly (within the boss fight) for most of them to notice anyway.

    I actually agree to most of the points here.

    Waiting 2.5mins for loading is kinda long, and I would also expect someone to at least inform the party if he's in the middle of something and needs some time to finish it. He chose to use IMS when busy, so it's his responsibility, not ours to ask.

    I've also spoken out about the usage of incomplete crystals and having no crystalbinds in parties before. But the response I get turns out to be not what I expected. "Don't be elitist"/"No gold to buy"/"I don't know what crystal to use" blahblahblah. What the actual [filtered] man? Me asking for proper/complete crystals + crystalbind makes me an elitist now? No gold? Really? When fine cruxes go for ~10g on broker and crystalbinds for ~50g there's really no excuse for that. Don't know what crystals to use? The welcome message tells you what to use, so don't give me that [filtered]. These kinda situations actually [filtered] me off the most, since it neither helps the person without proper crystals to learn what to use, nor helps the community in the long run.

    As for the usage of wrong sets of crystals, it's rather obvious when you're experienced in the game that the person probably just forgot to switch sets. It's also not hard to remind him to change his crystal set since he might have forgotten, rather than ninja kicking for assuming he doesn't know what he's doing. In addition, if someone actually initiated a kick for wrong set of crystals, he should have been experienced enough to know that it was probably a a careless mistake.
  • TWMagimayTWMagimay ✭✭✭✭✭
    And this is why I don't IMS. The amount of entitled pricks who demand respect for their time and fun while refusing to extend the same respect to others is too damn high.
  • BanimBanim ✭✭✭
    I don't IMS because the parties you get there are more often than not garbage. So those entitled pricks not only demand respect for their time and fun, they themselves tend to be bad players that make dungeon runs painfully slow. LFG is a much better tool since people can decide who joins and who doesn't. It can however be unforgiving for newer players trying to get accepted, so I do understand why they would use IMS. Still, I'd recommend against it except for the very easiest dungeons, and the leveling ones. With a little patience, a player who needs gear can start their own LFG and find like-minded players. It can take a while but it's worth it. And you can end up making some friends. Networking is important for a game like Tera. Having a good friends list and guild just makes life easier.
  • HaloistHaloist ✭✭✭
    edited November 2016
    Banim wrote: »
    I don't IMS because the parties you get there are more often than not garbage. So those entitled pricks not only demand respect for their time and fun, they themselves tend to be bad players that make dungeon runs painfully slow. LFG is a much better tool since people can decide who joins and who doesn't. It can however be unforgiving for newer players trying to get accepted, so I do understand why they would use IMS. Still, I'd recommend against it except for the very easiest dungeons, and the leveling ones. With a little patience, a player who needs gear can start their own LFG and find like-minded players. It can take a while but it's worth it. And you can end up making some friends. Networking is important for a game like Tera. Having a good friends list and guild just makes life easier.

    That's true, but I'm not very active in TERA currently. I usually just login and complete dungeons and get out. Players don't usually want friends who just login for short periods of time and disappear after that. Only thing i have is better than average proficiency in most of the classes the game has to offer, since I have a bad disadvantage of playing with 250 ping.
  • edited November 2016
    Haloist wrote: »
    And if you elitist [filtered] out there want to continue doing this, I hope the same thing happens to you in future.

    Hope this doesn't happen to anyone else

    Cry me a river, suck it up and make your own LFG if you're that good.

  • 1. If someone want to kick full +12 slaughter in LKNM, then they should just make LF instead of joining IM.

    I have seen some tank + healer join IM together and kick all +12 dps untill they get full +15 dps. These guys don't care how long +12 dps wait to join IM dungeon. These people are like psychopath. They got no moral and inconsiderate of others.
  • HaloistHaloist ✭✭✭
    edited November 2016
    CasiusClay wrote: »
    Haloist wrote: »
    And if you elitist [filtered] out there want to continue doing this, I hope the same thing happens to you in future.

    Hope this doesn't happen to anyone else

    Cry me a river, suck it up and make your own LFG if you're that good.

    Looks like you're completely missing the point, but doesn't matter I guess. Some people don't know empathy, so I don't blame them.
  • TWMagimayTWMagimay ✭✭✭✭✭
    dinners wrote: »
    These guys don't care how long +12 dps wait to join IM dungeon.

    Why should they? You don't seem to care how many times that healer wished resurrect had 0 seconds cooldown or how many times the tank wished he had a damage hack just so he can be out of there before the end of the month. What makes those damage dealers so special that everybody needs to care about them and only them?
  • LesbianViLesbianVi ✭✭✭✭✭
    In half slaughter, half dread, and w/o healer we managed to kill the 1st boss, we died a lot, yeah, since we were like 1st runners, usually ppl don't kick unless they are some ppl which can't carry or they are needed to be carried lol
  • AstrotechAstrotech
    edited November 2016
    First of all, I feel bad for your case. BTW, my party never considers a slaughter +12 with right crystals a bad dps. We know skill > gear. And if four of us are +15, we wont care the gear and skill of last person, especially for the questing/gearing dg. I personally do not like to kick any players. It is reasonable that players have low gears and bad skills. The only case I strongly want to kick someone is that he is on the ground, crying "you are a trash tank/healer" and he dies because he lacks of skill and is unfamiliar to dg. A story of my friend: being called trash tank by a dps in ssn, he did 80% of damage as a lancer.

    It sounds bad to kick people out of IMS due to his gear since queuing IMS for a dps takes long and this is a selfish action. However, a dps supposes to deal 20% of damage in a 5-man dg. If certain dps/tank dose not have any or correct crystals, (i am not talking about gear and cruxes are ok ofc) and extremely unfamiliar with his class and this dg, this player also wastes other 4 people's time. It is not hard for any players to find a guide of a dg and class. in addition, not killed by boss does not mean the player doing a good job. Without debuffs from tanks and healers, the party will lose 20% dps.

    This is my painful story this patch. I was doing iod bams while queuing bg and ssn for dailies on my guile 12 alt. Ssn popped. There were 4 100% noobs. Obviously, tank never had aggro and priest never debuffed the boss. 1st and 2nd bosses were fine. it just took extremely long time as if i were soloing. However at last boss, i was always chosen by boss due to highest aggro and they never broke the shield. Atm, priest had already used all his noob res and we wiped. Another try, we wiped again. Then I explained everything about this boss and they were like "I dont need u to tell me what i should do. You are not smarter. You are the worst dps i ve ever seen." After they declining to kick and disband, i dropped. It has been more than 1 hr. And it was just an ssn run.
  • ppl still complaining bout IMS seriously where is the Lama
  • Astrotech wrote: »
    This is my painful story this patch. I was doing iod bams while queuing bg and ssn for dailies on my guile 12 alt. Ssn popped. There were 4 100% noobs. Obviously, tank never had aggro and priest never debuffed the boss. 1st and 2nd bosses were fine. it just took extremely long time as if i were soloing. However at last boss, i was always chosen by boss due to highest aggro and they never broke the shield. Atm, priest had already used all his noob res and we wiped. Another try, we wiped again. Then I explained everything about this boss and they were like "I dont need u to tell me what i should do. You are not smarter. You are the worst dps i ve ever seen." After they declining to kick and disband, i dropped. It has been more than 1 hr. And it was just an ssn run.
    this is why i never help noobs they never ever listen to what i say and are beyonds brats

  • KyouhukouKyouhukou
    edited November 2016
    I never got why people are so prideful. If I didn't know boss mechanics and someone patiently offered to teach me, you bet I would be listening to them so I could teach other noobs. Pride is all it is.
  • Kyouhukou wrote: »
    I never got why people are so prideful. If I didn't know boss mechanics and someone patiently offered to teach me, you bet I would be listening to them so I could teach other noobs. Pride is all it is.

    If only all newbies were like you, people who use IMS won't have such a hard time. Most of the time when I ask a question or call out bad play, people either don't reply or start fighting back verbally.
    And there will be those people who will just give a [filtered] response like "if you don't like it then don't use IMS". Sorry but that doesn't help any of the players in any way, and is not the way we should solve problems. If this is how problems are supposed to be resolved (aka not addressing the problem and just leaving it as it is), then I don't see why no one has quit the game over very minor issues that they don't like. If you don't like something, you should just not play the game, amirite? /s
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