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Literally LOVING equa Fwc, yes i really do

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  • LancerJivaLancerJiva ✭✭✭✭✭
    Equalized is horrible. I'm a lancer and I get hit for 95k from a balders vengeance. That's more then what I get hit when I can actually use my real gear.
  • Casual is where the money is? I beg your pardon but I'mma call [filtered] on that. How much does a casual spend on emp, hmm? Because at the end of the day, that's how Tera get their money. If we can actually get some statics from Enmasses regarding the spending of a casual and someone more of a no lifer, I can almost guarantee, the spending of the no lifer will likely double or more. As far as equalized gears, that has been said and done, you 'casual' will always root for any changes that will put you on par with people who actually took their time to get the higher tier gears. As you said, mmo is for everyone...yet, the pvpers are tossed aside, contradiction? This is coming from someone who doesn't pvp as much nor care to get pvp gears but I would never take something they enjoy for the sake of whiners. You want something or be good at something, put your time to it.
  • Hey reaper elena, Im a grinder too haven't you read it?
    Well ofc no lifer pays too, just dont treat casuals players like they deserve less credit or attention. Yes, the game is for everyone and that why i say it.
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    Casual is where the money is? I beg your pardon but I'mma call [filtered] on that. How much does a casual spend on emp, hmm?

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  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    Casual is where the money is? I beg your pardon but I'mma call [filtered] on that. How much does a casual spend on emp, hmm? Because at the end of the day, that's how Tera get their money. If we can actually get some statics from Enmasses regarding the spending of a casual and someone more of a no lifer, I can almost guarantee, the spending of the no lifer will likely double or more. As far as equalized gears, that has been said and done, you 'casual' will always root for any changes that will put you on par with people who actually took their time to get the higher tier gears. As you said, mmo is for everyone...yet, the pvpers are tossed aside, contradiction? This is coming from someone who doesn't pvp as much nor care to get pvp gears but I would never take something they enjoy for the sake of whiners. You want something or be good at something, put your time to it.

    Casuals tend to spend money more often because they sell EMP or use it to get resources off the boxes. If you are hardcore what purpose do you have for spending money on a game beyond supporting the game? You'll be rich enough to buy EMP from the casuals and your cosmetics off them too. The way BHS/EME makes money relies on keeping both sides satisfied. With no casuals who are the farmers going to buy EMP from? Likewise, without the farmers who will the casuals sell EMP to? There's a reason why games over the years have gone through so many steps to limit the barrier to entering MMORPGs. Back then games had so many things that were very unfriendly to casuals and majority of them in games today are now gone.
  • AulonAulon ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2016
    Equalized gear kills PvP, you want to remove the grind then add a rating system like we used to have with Bloodraven. PvPers achieve a LvL in rating, they get the next step up in gear.
  • I remember when I used to kick it with my friends back in the day with Bloodraven gear.
  • i have a suggestion, bring them back both of them eq and non-eq on the condition BOTH of them give the same exact rewards...

    a good pvp'er would adapt to whatever gear he has doesn't matter what he wearing you pvp wannabees
  • If pvp is equalized....Why is there even pvp gear? Why not play a game like Halo where everyone has the same stuff. Isn't the entire point of an MMO gear progression? And why PvE as a PvP player if there is no point in obtaining PvP gear.....? I thought about PvE, But if end game is grinding the same mindless dungeon for no reason at all, Whats the point? For Gold? For what? Costumes? I guess....
  • FirepenguinFirepenguin ✭✭✭
    edited November 2016
    But muh faceroll gear ;( Jokes aside, how come some games can have equalized pvp and work perfectly fine while the tera community cries all over the forum about it? Pvp is supposed to be about skill not thickness of your wallet or how many days you spent on your gear. I played unequalized fwq with both pvp and equalized gear and it wasn't fun playing as either. I played an eq mystic, could peel off myself other eq people, would get [filtered] on with no chance of escape by geared people. Same with dps, try to kill a geared priest with eq gear, (spoiler alert, you won't). Then I played a geared ninja, I cut through eq people like a hot knife through butter, seeing their hp drop to half just from thousand cuts was rather boring, it felt like I was fighting AI on easy mode where they do nothing to you and you just hack n slash through them. If you find that fun then it's not pvp that you like. Would be nice to have both types of fwc like before, that way everyone would be pleased but then queue times would make people not queue at all.
  • Firepenguin, agreed.
    There we fall in another issue, battlegrounds should have the possibility to queue on multiple BGs like we can do it on DGs, saving us time and the battleground life itself.
  • BorsucBorsuc ✭✭✭
    edited November 2016
    How much does a casual spend on emp, hmm?
    Definitely much more than a hardcore who farms everything including Elite. Let's not forget the vast number of casuals vs the absolute minority of hardcores, because like it or not, 1+1=2 counts in terms of EMP too. Besides, you aren't paid by EME for their financial situation so why do you even care? Drop this stupid argument.
    As you said, mmo is for everyone...yet, the pvpers are tossed aside, contradiction?
    Contradiction? What? This change is good for real PvPers. You know there are games out there that have ONLY PvP and are fully equalized because that's normal in PvP games. That is REAL pvp.

    It's not PvPers that are tossed aside, it's the wannabes, and that's a good thing, don't want them to poison the real PvPer image.

    I do only PvP myself and equalization is the best thing in the PvP world (speaking about the whole MMO "PvP" which I put into quotes because it's not even PvP without eq).

    As to your put your time into it, indeed, that's why you have to put time into even the oldest form of PvP games in the world, before the computer era. Games like Chess are fully equalized, yet you will stand no chance against a pro. I wonder why is that? And that's what time and practice gives you. Personal skill, not an edge in mechanics. You don't get more chess pieces just because you played for a longer time, how absurd is that? Think about it.

    That is real PvP and has always been since the dawn of humanity. Real competitive sports and video games too. Stop poisoning the PvP concept and word already with your farming addiction. If you were a real PvPer you'd have no problem beating less experienced people with your own skill and be confident in it.
  • KoikoiKoikoi ✭✭✭
    This thread is just ridiculous

    People blatantly ignoring facts when told EQ gear may be equal in that sense but not actually balanced amaze the living [filtered] out of me.

    Lancers brawlers and healers get [filtered] when they are in fact the most survivable classes in game should be all that is needed as proof.

    this is a mmo. a gear progressive mmo. you want EQ? go to cs. you want to use your hard earned or swiped for gear... join fray wind. uneq of course.
  • edited November 2016
    Borsuc wrote: »
    How much does a casual spend on emp, hmm?
    Definitely much more than a hardcore who farms everything including Elite. Let's not forget the vast number of casuals vs the absolute minority of hardcores, because like it or not, 1+1=2 counts in terms of EMP too. Besides, you aren't paid by EME for their financial situation so why do you even care? Drop this stupid argument.
    As you said, mmo is for everyone...yet, the pvpers are tossed aside, contradiction?
    Contradiction? What? This change is good for real PvPers. You know there are games out there that have ONLY PvP and are fully equalized because that's normal in PvP games. That is REAL pvp.

    It's not PvPers that are tossed aside, it's the wannabes, and that's a good thing, don't want them to poison the real PvPer image.

    I do only PvP myself and equalization is the best thing in the PvP world (speaking about the whole MMO "PvP" which I put into quotes because it's not even PvP without eq).

    As to your put your time into it, indeed, that's why you have to put time into even the oldest form of PvP games in the world, before the computer era. Games like Chess are fully equalized, yet you will stand no chance against a pro. I wonder why is that? And that's what time and practice gives you. Personal skill, not an edge in mechanics. You don't get more chess pieces just because you played for a longer time, how absurd is that? Think about it.

    That is real PvP and has always been since the dawn of humanity. Real competitive sports and video games too. Stop poisoning the PvP concept and word already with your farming addiction. If you were a real PvPer you'd have no problem beating less experienced people with your own skill and be confident in it.

    Couldnt agree more with that!
    Koikoi wrote: »
    This thread is just ridiculous

    People blatantly ignoring facts when told EQ gear may be equal in that sense but not actually balanced amaze the living [filtered] out of me.

    Lancers brawlers and healers get [filtered] when they are in fact the most survivable classes in game should be all that is needed as proof.

    this is a mmo. a gear progressive mmo. you want EQ? go to cs. you want to use your hard earned or swiped for gear... join fray wind. uneq of course.

    About the equalized issues been not fully equalized we should treat directly with it, but it still important that new players and experienced players share the same gear status, because that means a balanced MASS PVP (massive pvp = team work)! Rollback to the unequalized gear just solve the issue for few peoples who wanna feel the allmight on pvp just making AOE dmg and reaping everyone in a roll.
    Also this is not a Dungeon, Lancer and Brawler shouldnt be unbreakeble, they do have defense skills on thats are up to let them survive a little more while the rest of the team tries to suppress the enemy, i mean suppress and fight and not slaughter them with a unbreakable tanker some untouchable healer and a vicious AOE dps.

    If you want to shine your pretty gear you still can do that in another contents on the game, and not on fwc who can start to become a strategy based and not a godlike premade massacre

    If u wanna grind sets, go grind it for pve content that is the main departament on the game, pvp on mmos are and will always be a distraction to amuse us when bored. If wasnt like that i would be better playing some real Player vs Player game, there is plenty if you seek
  • IMO, idc tbh, I only queved for FWC when I was bored and wanted some pvp, however I do not like the fact that lot of people stopped queving for it as the only non-equalized BG got equalized.... so that's my only whining lmao, if we had double the pts for it all the time and not only for weekend it would make the people queve far often which is IMO again far better, not really the points but well the queves would be faster than 3hrs...
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