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Recent Server Stability Issues

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  • owenexile wrote: »
    Well , isnt it possible to have a different routing for SEA and other regions? So in that way you guys go through a different routing and SEA Players can use the zayo servers? Cause currently Most of us are at 450ping and very unstable, but when the zayo servers are on , we get around 240-270 and its pretty stable

    The problem is that networks are designed to be deterministic, so EME isn't able to directly modify the route your traffic takes. Likewise, you can't directly modify the route traffic takes, except by using a VPN (which just basically forces it to go to a specific place first -- even then you can't control the route to that first place, or the route after that to the ultimate destination). By toggling the backbone providers, EME does influence the route, but they can't control the cascading consequences beyond their end.
  • Lagging rn.
  • Can anyone from eme tell when are they going to turn Zayo servers back on? Or are they going to do it at all. I'm getting fed up of logging in all the time to see how my ping is doing just to realize nothing's changed. Is eme even planning to turn the servers back on by Wednesday or are they planning to keep them off just to make sure most NA players won't cry about lag in the 30-man raid?
    An official response would be nice.
  • Amianne wrote: »
    Can anyone from eme tell when are they going to turn Zayo servers back on? Or are they going to do it at all. I'm getting fed up of logging in all the time to see how my ping is doing just to realize nothing's changed. Is eme even planning to turn the servers back on by Wednesday or are they planning to keep them off just to make sure most NA players won't cry about lag in the 30-man raid?
    An official response would be nice.

    Well until zayo fixes their servers, EME is stuck making a tough decision. Personally i'm in Canada and for me there's very little difference in ping between Zayo (70-80) vs Non-Zayo (50-70) so hopefully I don't sound too biased. Currently they're forced to either choose to serve the NA population or the overseas population, and as it stands they've chosen to serve the NA population, not sure exactly why. Maybe NA generates more revenue, or maybe since it's TERA NA they feel obligated to prioritize NA players despite of the fact that the game has a global player base. Either way, unless EME suddenly has a change of heart, Zayo fixes their servers, or EME contracts with a new communications infrastructure company, overseas players are pretty much stuck with high ping or forced to use a VPN (which i've been doing for the last year despite living in the country next door).
  • The thing is, it's not just the overseas population. NA players have issues without Zayo too, more serious issues than just having 100 more ms with it on.
    If it was just constant high ping or if vpn could fix it, I wouldn't be complaining, but it's unstable af and crashing if the data transfer is a bit higher (aka when it has to load in new areas or in dungeons), and using a VPN doesn't seem to make a difference, not to me at least.
  • edited November 2016
    Amianne wrote: »
    The thing is, it's not just the overseas population. NA players have issues without Zayo too, more serious issues than just having 100 more ms with it on.
    It depends entirely on your ISP and location. Some people in the U.S. have issues with Zayo, some do not. Some have issues with Savvis, some do not. Some have issues either way because the issues are en-route to either provider. I think it's less a question of choosing one audience over another, but trying to find the one that causes the least problems on the whole. But no matter what, some people will always have problems. (Even before this whole thing started, there were people with ping problems all the time. Just not as many.)

    Amianne wrote: »
    If it was just constant high ping or if vpn could fix it, I wouldn't be complaining, but it's unstable af and crashing if the data transfer is a bit higher (aka when it has to load in new areas or in dungeons), and using a VPN doesn't seem to make a difference, not to me at least.
    It's quite likely that a VPN can work around the issue, but you'd have to find the right end-point that takes a better route in the U.S. and a good route from there in. So it would probably be tricky to find the right provider and node that bring success. (And there's no question that this sort of thing should not be necessary in an ideal world...)
  • Amianne wrote: »
    Can anyone from eme tell when are they going to turn Zayo servers back on? Or are they going to do it at all. I'm getting fed up of logging in all the time to see how my ping is doing just to realize nothing's changed. Is eme even planning to turn the servers back on by Wednesday or are they planning to keep them off just to make sure most NA players won't cry about lag in the 30-man raid?
    An official response would be nice.

    You actually don't even have to log in to check wether its still lagging, just open your computers command prompt and type "ping 208.67.49.145 -t" (without quotes) and you can see what ping you generally are getting with barely any hassle.
    See?
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    But yeah at any rate i do hope they actually change it back on, I'm currently being forced to use wtfast to even play and even then the ping is worse then my normal ping so its not really that beneficial.
  • zayo still off but it route to another backbone provider http://imgur.com/a/wbZxx

    lag/rubberbanding still in there :(
  • This is really sad. Been playing archer for more than a year and I've been waiting for this patch. I've always had around 90-110ms ping, meaning the badly designed rapid fire isn't that rapid for me. Now imagine what it'll be like tomorrow in the feather patch, the added lagg we've been experiencing plus the lots of bugs it probably carries. I haven't been able to play my archer for like a month with all this lagg. I can keep on playing OW until the servers are more stable for me to go back on my archer. Hopefully really soon.
  • Amianne wrote: »
    Can anyone from eme tell when are they going to turn Zayo servers back on? Or are they going to do it at all. I'm getting fed up of logging in all the time to see how my ping is doing just to realize nothing's changed. Is eme even planning to turn the servers back on by Wednesday or are they planning to keep them off just to make sure most NA players won't cry about lag in the 30-man raid?
    An official response would be nice.

    So you want NA to "cry about lag" just so you can have a lag-free experience? What you're going through right now is what the majority of NA would experience if Zayo was turned back on. It's selfish to say "this part of the playerbase should put up with the lag in the new content, and not cry about it so I can be happy," no matter what region you're from. I'm from NA, but play with a lot of SEA players, and it's not fun watching them lag out at 350ms. It's also not fun to DC constantly or have ping spikes up to 30k when Zayo is on for me, though. There's no happy solution between Zayo being on or off. Half the playerbase will be affected either way, and neither is acceptable for an MMO.

    My guess is EME is currently tweaking the routes atm and seeing if they can find some sort of combination that results in the least lag for the majority of their playerbase. Either that, or they're putting pressure on Zayo/Savvis to stop being shits. I hope they figure something out soon, though, because being stuck with 500 ping in a 30 man or half a raid that just DCed isn't playable by any stretch of the imagination. They're really going to regret pushing this patch out so early when they haven't fixed the routing issues.
  • Catorii wrote: »
    My guess is EME is currently tweaking the routes atm and seeing if they can find some sort of combination that results in the least lag for the majority of their playerbase. Either that, or they're putting pressure on Zayo/Savvis to stop being shits. I hope they figure something out soon, though, because being stuck with 500 ping in a 30 man or half a raid that just DCed isn't playable by any stretch of the imagination. They're really going to regret pushing this patch out so early when they haven't fixed the routing issues.
    I don't think they have much choice in terms of continuing to update the game. A small business like EME can't exactly "put pressure" on Zayo and Savvis. If it didn't work for Netflix, it won't work for some tiny gaming company. And they also can't "tweak the routes" from their end -- it's all done by the network itself (that deterministic aspect is central to how Internet routing works). I too hope they are able to resolve the situation soon, but I'm not optimistic because this issue is way larger than they are.
  • To be honest with you guys, be amazed EME can eve "turn zayo off and on".
    Most places can't even do that, You get the route you get.
    For myself, With Zayo on I average 55-70ms however between around 6pm-11pm eastern is completely unplayable for me.
    With zayo and my rather expensive VPN, I stick around 45-50 consistantly,
    With Savvis on, I average 47-53 consistantly.
    With savvis+vpn it's about 42-47 or so.


    For those saying a VPN does nothing. It takes ALOT of time, trial and error to find the proper server, let alone finding a good service. Since you're trying to tackle one specific problem. Not just any VPN is going todo that for you, same goes for not just any of their servers are going todo that.
  • Catorii wrote: »
    So you want NA to "cry about lag" just so you can have a lag-free experience?
    Nop. I just wanted an answer for my question. I wasn't telling them to turn it back on. I'm sorry if it sounded offensive. As you can read from that post, I wasn't in the best mood.

    On another note, they did manage to tweak something, because as I know Zayo is still off, but there are a lot of people, including myelf, whos ping has gone back to almost normal, it's only around 30-70 ms higher than usual, and I haven't crashed all day.
  • I was watching a video on youtube and came across the possible reason for the server stability issues (Massive DDOs attack on US internet)

    skip to around 6:15 minutes in if you dont want to watch the whole video.
  • Seems to only have gotten worse over the last few days, at least for me... Currently trying to run dungeons while spiking up to 1000ms during every boss fight. I checked my router, turned off any devices that might take the latency away, but it doesn't change anything. The rest works fine for me, but not TERA. Which is a shame...
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