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Recent Server Stability Issues

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  • FafhredFafhred ✭✭
    edited December 2016
    kubitoid wrote: »
    Fafhred1 wrote: »
    I have a very good AV/firewall suit; my system is clean unless Tera is now a disguised malware...
    thats one of reasons why u dc so often too. put tera in trusted apps or disable av & firewall completely while playing tera

    Neither is ever going to happen.
    I am a qualified computer engineer; that is the type of answer from persons who do not have a clue about security (or worse).

    Regarding the firewall, Tera is in trusted applications or would never access the Internet at all; that is how firewalls work; contrarily to popular belief, firewalls do NOT let applications get through some time, and not through another time; they work on all or nothing basis, per application (or per port depending the firewall type).
    Therefore that cannot be the reason for disconnection; a firewall might block a dodgy data packet (those are a known form of attack vector), but that would not cause a disconnect from the user end, and definitely should not from the server end, unless the server itself is compromised.
    For that to happen and be undetected, it would require someone (normally at least 2, because that part is what used to be, and probably still is, called 'mission-critical') not doing their job; or not competent to do it, with same result.

    Regarding AV, no application is ever deemed safe, everything must be scanned periodically; trojans and viruses like nothing better than highjacking a 'trusted' application.

    As for disabling a Firewall, it is the stupidest and most irresponsible 'solution' roaming the Internet; I am pretty sure that this urban legend type of solution initiated originally from hackers looking for gullible targets.
    If you run your computer like that, congratulations, your computer is most likely already part of some botnet ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botnet )...
  • LesbianViLesbianVi ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2016
    I dc when I am not using lower ping servers which help me sometimes, without I dc, so it is not only servers. I also don't wanna use those lowering servers these days, why? They raise my ping by 30 to 50 with timeouts, I asked one of my friends, he said connections are bad, it just keeps player from dcing and that's it.

    As I said, EME and Tera servers are not the only problems. This [filtered] is global.

    PS: PPTP protocols also DCs from servers (lowering pings vpn) L2TP stays connected but it inclused spikes while PPTP has no spikes but dces sometimes.
  • Fafhred1 wrote: »
    I just did a cold boot with the intention of terminating those tasks; checking Task Manager before anything else, I now see 14 TERA.exe suspended and still 3 TL.exe suspended. >:)
    I took a screenshot of that, but this forum only allows to import image from an URL, not from local computer; looking into that atm.

    Tera is definitely doing something VERY dodgy; that is the kind of behavior I would expect from a virus, NOT from any legitimate application...

    I have a very good AV/firewall suit; my system is clean unless Tera is now a disguised malware...
    TERA.exe or TL.exe can't be suspended upon a cold boot unless there is something supremely wrong with your machine. I've had this machine on for weeks and launched TERA countless times, and there are no suspended TERA-related processes. If you have suspended processes that reactivate themselves on a reboot like that, something's wrong. Perhaps some sort of program is installed that tries to restore your computer to its last known state, but that's not normal. I'd be tempted to reformat or reset Windows completely.
  • LesbianViLesbianVi ✭✭✭✭✭
    kubitoid wrote: »
    Fafhred1 wrote: »
    Neither is ever going to happen.
    then you will continue to suffer with tera running on your pc. its up to you. also listen to counterpoint's words, he often voices right things.

    If turning firewall is helping, it means there is something wrong very wrong with launcher and Tera.EXE O.o
  • FafhredFafhred ✭✭
    edited December 2016
    Fafhred1 wrote: »
    I just did a cold boot with the intention of terminating those tasks; checking Task Manager before anything else, I now see 14 TERA.exe suspended and still 3 TL.exe suspended. >:)
    I took a screenshot of that, but this forum only allows to import image from an URL, not from local computer; looking into that atm.

    Tera is definitely doing something VERY dodgy; that is the kind of behavior I would expect from a virus, NOT from any legitimate application...

    I have a very good AV/firewall suit; my system is clean unless Tera is now a disguised malware...
    TERA.exe or TL.exe can't be suspended upon a cold boot unless there is something supremely wrong with your machine. I've had this machine on for weeks and launched TERA countless times, and there are no suspended TERA-related processes. If you have suspended processes that reactivate themselves on a reboot like that, something's wrong. Perhaps some sort of program is installed that tries to restore your computer to its last known state, but that's not normal. I'd be tempted to reformat or reset Windows completely.
    I know it is not normal and it is ONLY TERA.exe and TL.exe
    I have never seen anything like that under previous versions of Windows.
    I bought this computer only 2 months ago, I cannot reformat it since it is a manufacturer install, and besides that I spent too much time migrating my data from my old computer.
    I am now seriously considering removing Tera altogether and write it off...

    kubitoid wrote: »
    Fafhred1 wrote: »
    Neither is ever going to happen.
    then you will continue to suffer with tera running on your pc. its up to you. also listen to counterpoint's words, he often voices right things.
    You are such an ignorant that I am not going to answer you any further.
  • clfarron4clfarron4 ✭✭✭✭
    @Spacecats Report (05/Dec/2016): Started playing at 20:00 GMT today, started a SSHM run (yeah, not even a busy dungeon) and I could feel the unstable ping. Constantly missing skills, dying mechanics when either in a safe zone or in an iframe which iframes you from the mechanics. Even fellow party members were affected. Stopped playing at 21:00 GMT because the ping instability made it too difficult to play the game and be useful.

    It would appear that whilst the worse has passed, there are still plenty of people with connection issues to TERA, even if they aren't preaching about it here.

    And before you ask, my connection to other games is just fine.
  • edited December 2016
    Fafhred1 wrote: »
    Fafhred1 wrote: »
    I just did a cold boot with the intention of terminating those tasks; checking Task Manager before anything else, I now see 14 TERA.exe suspended and still 3 TL.exe suspended. >:)
    I took a screenshot of that, but this forum only allows to import image from an URL, not from local computer; looking into that atm.

    Tera is definitely doing something VERY dodgy; that is the kind of behavior I would expect from a virus, NOT from any legitimate application...

    I have a very good AV/firewall suit; my system is clean unless Tera is now a disguised malware...
    TERA.exe or TL.exe can't be suspended upon a cold boot unless there is something supremely wrong with your machine. I've had this machine on for weeks and launched TERA countless times, and there are no suspended TERA-related processes. If you have suspended processes that reactivate themselves on a reboot like that, something's wrong. Perhaps some sort of program is installed that tries to restore your computer to its last known state, but that's not normal. I'd be tempted to reformat or reset Windows completely.
    I know it is not normal and it is ONLY TERA.exe and TL.exe
    I have never seen anything like that under previous versions of Windows.
    I bought this computer only 2 months ago, I cannot reformat it since it is a manufacturer install, and besides that I spent too much time migrating my data from my old computer.
    I am now seriously considering removing Tera altogether and write it off...

    At the very least, you should probably just uninstall it just to make sure these phantom processes go away, and then reinstall a fresh install to make sure they don't come back. I'm quite inclined to believe that the "cold boot" wasn't actually a cold boot but put it into sleep or hybernation mode instead (some power buttons do that by default now). It's unthinkable that any program would start dozens of suspended processes upon boot and makes no sense.
  • I just left a RMHM with 4919 stable ping...
    If these server issues continue then I will join those that left for more stable and reliable things
  • I live within 50 miles of the Tera NA servers. This was the day after HH patch. it starts at around 2pm PST and lasts 6-12 hours. my normal ping without this lag is 16-28ms at best. No i don't get lag like this in any other game while it's happening in tera. It isn't an isolated issue it's affecting almost EVERYONE and is happening EVERY DAY, though some people seem to be affected a lot worse than others.

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    I don't even play now because of this, i just log in to broker stuff. Ping spikes and packet loss like this are absolutely unplayable.
  • DelusoDeluso ✭✭✭✭
    Yea I tried to play just now and doing some IoD dailies but random ping spikes killed my mood.
  • FafhredFafhred ✭✭
    edited December 2016
    Fafhred1 wrote: »
    Fafhred1 wrote: »
    I just did a cold boot with the intention of terminating those tasks; checking Task Manager before anything else, I now see 14 TERA.exe suspended and still 3 TL.exe suspended. >:)
    I took a screenshot of that, but this forum only allows to import image from an URL, not from local computer; looking into that atm.

    Tera is definitely doing something VERY dodgy; that is the kind of behavior I would expect from a virus, NOT from any legitimate application...

    I have a very good AV/firewall suit; my system is clean unless Tera is now a disguised malware...
    TERA.exe or TL.exe can't be suspended upon a cold boot unless there is something supremely wrong with your machine. I've had this machine on for weeks and launched TERA countless times, and there are no suspended TERA-related processes. If you have suspended processes that reactivate themselves on a reboot like that, something's wrong. Perhaps some sort of program is installed that tries to restore your computer to its last known state, but that's not normal. I'd be tempted to reformat or reset Windows completely.
    I know it is not normal and it is ONLY TERA.exe and TL.exe
    I have never seen anything like that under previous versions of Windows.
    I bought this computer only 2 months ago, I cannot reformat it since it is a manufacturer install, and besides that I spent too much time migrating my data from my old computer.
    I am now seriously considering removing Tera altogether and write it off...

    At the very least, you should probably just uninstall it just to make sure these phantom processes go away, and then reinstall a fresh install to make sure they don't come back. I'm quite inclined to believe that the "cold boot" wasn't actually a cold boot but put it into sleep or hybernation mode instead (some power buttons do that by default now). It's unthinkable that any program would start dozens of suspended processes upon boot and makes no sense.
    Yes, it is exactly what I have done and I was concluding.
    I uninstalled Tera yesterday, then did a deep scan which found no issue.

    I also did a search which showed that my problem was not a unique situation: http://superuser.com/questions/1056944/windows-10-processes-stuck-in-suspended-state http://forum.sysinternals.com/killed-process-stays-suspended_topic31972_page2.html
    Neither of the 2 solutions applied in my case (both involved tasks being suspended by an AV software, but suspending mine while offline had no result; I would never suspend it while online), and the suspended tasks were still there after this and another alleged cold boot.
    I am now thinking the same, that WIndows 10 shutdown is no longer a genuine shut down (I definitely selected shutdown each time, from the right-click menu), but a variation of what used to be hibernation in previous versions; this is the only possibility accounting for those tasks still being here while the executables are gone.

    Still, I reinstalled Tera and those tasks are still there, without any means so far to terminate them, while their number is likely to keep growing over time; I am currently investigating 3rd-party substitutes to Task Manager to do what it used to do on previous Windows versions.
    That still does not remove the issue of how they came to be that way, which definitely seem to be an issue with Tera itself when used on Windows 10.
  • Very high and unstable ping at TR right now.
  • What the actual holy mother of dragons is going on with the server!?
    I am sitting on 300+ ping standing in Hightwatch, my skills have a 3~6 second delay...
    I'm on TR btw.. what is this!? 0______0
  • BabbelsimBabbelsim ✭✭✭
    edited December 2016
    What are you guys doing!? All I can do is walk around and that's it, I can't even jump let alone use skills! Please feed your hamsters!


    Edit: After 14min a DC...
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