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let's talk about harrowhold.

no, i don't care what gear you have.
no, i don't care how high your skill level is
i might care if ur a slayer tho cuz slayer sux.

No one cares if you have +12 and you think you're entitled to beating Harrowhold. It's not meant to be ran with +12. you could do it in guile, i'm not denying that. but if ur +12 and someone else is +15 ambush, sorry man, but ur not getting that spot.
Harrowhold is not a beginner dungeon. Period. It's not a casual dungeon. Period.

The raid leader will decide if they take you or not. Regardless of your gear. Stop complaining about this stupid dungeon. It won't change anything.]

"oh its possible to do it in +12 guile trust me guys!!!"
-pls stop. no1 cares.

"freaking elitist scumbags won't take me because im not +15 ambush!!"
-plis stop. raid leaders decide who they take. it's nothing personal.


edit- ok apparently all i got was ppl calling me a slayer hater which is nice but i mean can u blame me
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  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    so is mean than all the dps are sorcerer, archer, ninja ?
  • Your first line: "no, i don't care what gear you have."

    Then you proceed to talk about taking +15 over +12. That seems like you care about it tbh. Just a tad funny.
  • He sounds like me when I randomly join a raid that isn't mine and then all of a sudden we kick someone. Then that person whispers me asking why I kicked them and starts blaming me for kicking them when it's not even my raid only because my name is 4 letters and the easiest to remember to whisper to.
  • Idi0ticGeniusIdi0ticGenius ✭✭✭✭✭
    Then you realize that one +15 ambush is doing less dmg than idoneal, insta-kick. >:)
  • im a slayer : (
  • sanj66sanj66 ✭✭✭✭
    i think the most important issue with harrowhold is the warrior scythe crit issue.
  • Cleared phase 4 on a guile mystic last night. :c

    I do agree it's on whoever is willing to lead the raid to determine if a person is geared or skilled enough. While it is possible to clear on a +12 guile character, it's easier to do it in imp or ambush +15 which would help carry a pug group where skill and knowledge of the mechanics is an unknown factor when pugging.
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    StarSprite wrote: »
    Cleared phase 4 on a guile mystic last night. :c

    Not exactly sure if there's anyone concerned with the gear of healers, since most healers are only in upgraded gear to meet the minimum item level for the Vanguards... It's why healing is a good secondary role, requires nearly no gold investment wise since you can just gear enchant them.
  • TWMagimayTWMagimay ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    StarSprite wrote: »
    Cleared phase 4 on a guile mystic last night. :c

    Not exactly sure if there's anyone concerned with the gear of healers, since most healers are only in upgraded gear to meet the minimum item level for the Vanguards... It's why healing is a good secondary role, requires nearly no gold investment wise since you can just gear enchant them.

    ^This. Meanwhile, guile tanks bleed through block on stage 2. Massively.
  • I was trying to make the point that it is possible for some classes. Archers are so buffed right now they could probably do okay with guile too. I personally wouldn't take a tank in guile because of things like bleeding through block and having to hold aggro.

    I'm sorry slayers. :c
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    StarSprite wrote: »
    I was trying to make the point that it is possible for some classes. Archers are so buffed right now they could probably do okay with guile too. I personally wouldn't take a tank in guile because of things like bleeding through block and having to hold aggro.

    I'm sorry slayers. :c

    People complaining are mostly dps though, so a healer going in with less gear doesn't really mean much. It's already been a known fact healers could clear content with basically nothing on anyways.
  • I'm in full ambush on lancer and well I seen myself taking damage through block sometimes at phase 1 and phase 4. I can't remember from phase 2 or 3 though. Those hits that did hit, they were all crit hits when I checked battle stats from my recordings. But all I can say is the hits are hit like a truck :D if not careful.
  • +12 Sorc and Archer are as good as +15 IMP un-revamped old dps class.
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