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Your opinion on gender locking classes?

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  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mahavala wrote: »
    Zoknahal wrote: »
    While some people would enjoy the new class, it is only gonna be a small portion, while the rest will simply ignore it or not play it because of the sole fact it is locked to a gender, ultimately making players feel forced to play as something they do not wish to play as in order to play the new class.
    I'm pretty sure that the vast majority are neutral or don't care that much. They might prefer to play something else, but in the end they're not going to get so hung up on the character model if it's fun to play. There is a portion here (just like in Korea) that feel more strongly about it, but the strategy works because most don't really care beyond a minor annoyance.

    I am even more sure that the people who cared and are not neutral is big part of the large portion of players who left Tera over the past year or so.

    Being loud doesn't make you a majority. The constant complaining on forums is not a representation of how people really feel. If the anti-gender lock group really was so significant, and by that I mean the anti-female/elin group, then we would either have mostly male locks like games originally did, or there would be at least one of each. People mostly quit over many other factors. The people that supposedly quit Tera for x game just so happen to go to another game that has race/gender locks anyways, further showing that the race/gender lock isn't the real reason they even quit.
  • BorsucBorsuc ✭✭✭
    edited December 2016
    ^ not aware of anyone who quits TERA for X reason and goes to game with gender locking (where do you get the X reason from anyways, forum? didn't you say it's minority? can't use that as argument). In fact, games with gender lock tend to be the trash tier type in Korea, the ones copying for a quick buck and smallest effort.

    Those people who quit TERA because of this started playing it as an AAA game not a garbage run of the mill korean trashcan like the million of no-name korean or chinese MMOs you're probably not even aware of, but they exist and much more than you think.

    How do you know, for example, that optimization is a big deal? Because people complain on forum about it? Isn't that the same argument you used against the "vocal minority"?? Come on.

    On the other hand pray tell me how many AAA MMOs have gender locks to this extent (not say, just one class out of 8). Christ, not even B&S has any. Yeah it's race-locked, but not GENDER locked, since you can play any class as male, period. Yes, even Summoner has male lyn available.
  • ScarmarkScarmark ✭✭
    edited December 2016
    Ilythien wrote: »
    That's pretty right. Look at The Witcher 3 per exemple. The game is gender locked and has almost no customization and no one even talks about that. The more important point to most players about a game hero is not its gender or race, but how cool and interesting it is.
    About Tera, the race would hurt more feelings if they chosen a weird one like baraka or amani.

    Witcher 3 is a single player game, its gender lock because the MC has a story, a personality and a development, its totally different in a MMORPG, in a MMO you create a character, your OWN character that cant be your own if the class that you wish is locked in a gender, i know the majority of tera play females, but this is just unfair, race lock is fine, gender lock is unfair and limited for no reason that is not "because of money".
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2016
    Borsuc wrote: »
    How do you know, for example, that optimization is a big deal? Because people complain on forum about it? Isn't that the same argument you used against the "vocal minority"?? Come on.
    Popular games of all genres in the US are optimized, and any time a game isn't, it receives a lot of backlash and fails. The West cares a lot about fps and graphics. Also, how can someone play Tera if their computer can't even run the game? Are they well, not forced to quit? Nah, I'm sure female characters is why they decided to quit though.

    Notice how none of the major games in NA is Korean? Maybe Korean games just fail in NA, gender lock or not.
  • BorsucBorsuc ✭✭✭
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Popular games of all genres in the US are optimized, and any time a game isn't, it receives a lot of backlash and fails. The West cares a lot about fps and graphics. Also, how can someone play Tera if their computer can't even run the game? Are they well, not forced to quit? Nah, I'm sure female characters is why they decided to quit though.
    Well if they can't run the game, then they won't quit since they wouldn't play it in the first place (I'm not talking about people quitting before even reaching lv10 for example). Anyway, I'm not disagreeing that optimization isn't a factor, I'm saying that your basis for it is still... people complaining on the forum and ingame, same as for gender-locking.
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Notice how none of the major games in NA is Korean? Maybe Korean games just fail in NA, gender lock or not.
    Well I fully agree with this part. Gender locking is obviously a big reason. Western games, at least the quality ones, aren't gender locked. Note that playing a "premade" character is NOT gender-locking, that's completely different.

    In fact it's one of the reasons Korean games utterly suck, and I mean the majority. Yes a huge majority of korean games are gender locked. Those are typically the trash pumped weekly for a quick buck that nobody even hears of in the West. But TERA was supposed to be different. It was advertised as AAA MMO, and quite frankly, it was that way at launch. Look how many races it has and how it allows all possible combinations whatsoever. Just like GW2, it was a true quality game, and it showed that they cared.

    Nowadays it's like those no name trash nobody hears of in the west, unsurprisingly its popularity dipped massively and it will continue to do so. In the end it will become on of those too, at this rate >.>

    Gender locking is a big deal. Because it shows how little the developer cares of quality. That, on principle, is very important. If they cut corners in this, where else will they cut corners? Generally gender-locked games will cut corners gradually everywhere. Their bad reputation is deserving.

    But yeah, playing a game with a premade character IS NOT GENDER LOCKING. That's you roleplay someone else's designed character, nothing unusual, but not gender locked. Gender lock is when you create your OWN character but cannot make it male (or female) due to gender restrictions. You give the character a name, appearance, and other stuff like that etc. And yeah obviously I'm talking about RPGs. It's a shame that even some first person shooters don't have gender lock, lmao, and this one is supposed to be a "RPG". (this is in comment to the other people)
  • EndevaEndeva ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2016
    Aphius wrote: »
    Your opinion on gender locking classes?

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  • Shows the decline in effort put forth by devs and a dying game, trying to scrape up all the money by sporting T&A classes before meetings its untimely fate.
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