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Actual state of gunner?

I read somewhere that gunner is not that good in PVE ( dps aspect ) anymore, is that right?
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  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    They're right, even with their minor recent buff they are still low. They are receiving buffs in the future, but they don't seem to be much compared to the buffs the other classes who are already much better are getting.
  • ObsObs ✭✭✭
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    They're right, even with their minor recent buff they are still low. They are receiving buffs in the future, but they don't seem to be much compared to the buffs the other classes who are already much better are getting.

    Though gunners are doing very well in Harrowhold because of 100% AB Crit.
  • DvsvDvsv ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2016
    Just check that Moongourd site..

    Lachelith HM:

    Best gunner: 1.4 M/s
    Best sorc: 2.9 M/s

    2.9/1.4 = More than 100% better dps...

    This game is balanced ofc...

    BHS gonna nerf gunner in PVP and buff a tad bit on PVE..
    https://sites.google.com/site/yoshasstuff/class-change-12

    Maybe a ~10% buff on pve should close that 100% gap cuz math is very hard for BHS...
  • Gunner is pretty bad. You need Ambush carry to stay relevant in skilled parties. Although I do like playing gunner in HH.
  • Gunner used to a OP class. But, Ninja, Sorc, Archer and Brawler do alot more dps than Gunner atm.

    +15 skullful IMP Gunner player do little more dps than +12 Sorc and Archer. Gunner should wait for revamp. Until, then it's harder. People will not accept +12 Gunner for HH anyway.
  • DvsvDvsv ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2016
    dinners wrote: »
    Gunner should wait for revamp.
    Revamp on a relatively "new" class like Gunner. Devs are really clueless.
    This is what we call "power creep". It happened when BHS made that brilliant decision to not nerf ninjas but buff everyone else..

    Maybe BHS should revamp themselves...
  • ............ talk about casual class arent op anymore .
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2016
    Dvsv wrote: »
    dinners wrote: »
    Gunner should wait for revamp.
    Revamp on a relatively "new" class like Gunner. Devs are really clueless.
    This is what we call "power creep". It happened when BHS made that brilliant decision to not nerf ninjas but buff everyone else..

    Maybe BHS should revamp themselves...

    Gunner/Slayer was already falling behind before Ninja. All the other classes were beng buffed while Gunner got nothing but a nerf and Slayer an extremely minor buff. Also, BHS doesn't really have a balance team. They make some decisions based on community feedback. People cried about Gunners being "over powered" even when they weren't, so here we are. Oh and, people still say Gunner is strong despite it until recently doing less damage than Lancer. The same happens for Slayer, people are stuck in the past when Slayer was one of the best dps completely ignoring every other class aside for Gunner has received several damage buffs.

    This is why listening to the community is a stupid idea. The community is what asked for Gunner to be a trash class, and well, they got it.
  • From one time to another, Gunner got nerf after nerf after nerf after nerf and there goes again, another nerf.

    Seriously WTF is the people's problem with gunner PVE wise ? even in PVP is ridiculous, that PVP defense nerf for example. Reapers can take almost 50% of my HP with one of their combo's without any critical hits, ninjas are even worse, they hit like freaking tanks.

    That community is so cancerous, no doubt about it.
  • BHS will buff Gunner soon in Ktera.

    1. Nerf pvp defense
    2. Increase Burst Fire attack speed 20%
    3. Reduce HB-7 Recall CD -5 sec.
    4. 100% Balder damage increase.

    But, I don't think, this will make par dps with another revamped class.
  • dinners wrote: »
    BHS will buff Gunner soon in Ktera.

    1. Nerf pvp defense
    2. Increase Burst Fire attack speed 20%
    3. Reduce HB-7 Recall CD -5 sec.
    4. 100% Balder damage increase.

    But, I don't think, this will make par dps with another revamped class.

    True.

    1. PVP is dead.
    2. Burst Fire will still do the same damage regardless, only faster. Probably just a really little tiny bit of dps increase here.
    3. Warp Barrier still does it better.
    4. Who tf uses Balder's Vengeance on dungeons anyway?
  • ObsObs ✭✭✭
    Montblanck wrote: »
    dinners wrote: »
    BHS will buff Gunner soon in Ktera.

    1. Nerf pvp defense
    2. Increase Burst Fire attack speed 20%
    3. Reduce HB-7 Recall CD -5 sec.
    4. 100% Balder damage increase.

    But, I don't think, this will make par dps with another revamped class.

    True.

    1. PVP is dead.
    2. Burst Fire will still do the same damage regardless, only faster. Probably just a really little tiny bit of dps increase here.
    3. Warp Barrier still does it better.
    4. Who tf uses Balder's Vengeance on dungeons anyway?

    1. This was mainly to counteract the Recall CD buff.
    2. 20% Faster is a lot.
    3. Recall can move you as well, though I agree Warp is a lot better
    4. That's the point of the buff: to make it worth using over TB HB BF
  • I haven't actually seen a gunner wearing vm8 or 8.5 majority of gunners I see are alts also slayers do damage Recheck(just not 2 power 3 crit slayers)
  • Kira98Kira98 ✭✭✭
    The gunners had their time of glory, now suffer what we suffer archers and sorcerer all this time. -.-"
  • Kira98 wrote: »
    The gunners had their time of glory, now suffer what we suffer archers and sorcerer all this time. -.-"

    Would "all this time" include the long period during which Archer and Gunner were neck-and-neck (and it can be argued Archer was outright better because one had a debuff and the other didn't) in DPS, which was the entirety of the third season of Dreadspire?

    Besides the fact Archer had actually been pretty good for a while before Bluehole broke it, I highly doubt many of the people complaining about the current state of Gunner are the bandwagoners who played it when was most convenient. Some of us are just long-tenured players of the class, and I find your sentiment to be unfair to players like me.

    During Go Berserk, I certainly did not feel any animosity towards classes besides my own when they were in the dumps, and would ask the same of you.
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