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How playable is lancer with 300 ping?
I like the class but idk how it would do at endgame with my ping. I do fine as a dps class but I would also like to try tanking. I dont like brawlers that much so I prefer lancers.
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Even 200 ping lancer can't be good. It's not the player fault. It's just ping.
Lancer is prob the worst class for high ping.
Archer and Zerker are ping dependent class.
With high ping, you can still block the boss attack. But, you need fast reaction on counter shield, block cancel and attacking between boss attack.
debilitate/shield bash->spring attack? impossible
debilitate->wallop? impossible
shield bash->onslaught? impossible and you will desync will cause you go through bam.
shield barrage->spring attack? impossible if you have high attack speed too. Lancer requires high attack speed to play right?
Skating? your block cancel is slow and your auto attack will desync make you move less distance.
Just get hell away from lancer. brawler and even warrior tank is ping friendly for you.
how about warrior? is it good for 300 ping? I was thinking if I wont be able to play lancer might as well try out warrior which is another class that I like.
how about warrior as a DPS and not a tank? is it ping friendly?
I was just saying war tank is relatively more ping friendly than lancer, brawler, and zerk tank possibly. Reason: Warrior tank's block is faster than 3 others'. Warrior tank has longer frame to skill chains it is not likely to gonna fail and it has very short animation lock. Warrior tank has more iframes and great mobility skills, you can just easily iframe or move out of 1shot while other tanks may get killed by desync problems.
War DPS is more ping friendly than War tank because you don't have block cancel so less command inputs.
War DPS is pretty bad with high ping among DPS classes especially when you use noctenium which causes huge lag spikes. Choose Sorcerer, Slayer, Reaper, Zerk DPS instead. These classes lose some DPS output with high ping but at least you will not feel so chunky to play them.
Ohhh I see. Thank you for your response. I already have slayer,zerk and sorc and would like to try other characters as well. I guess I'll just test them all out and see how it goes.
1. If u cant dps you wont hold aggro don't know wat the [filtered] hes talking about
Tanks don't generate aggro at an equal rate. Also unlikely he'll ever tank for anyone doing over 2m/s. Lancer has always been able to do mediocre dps and still hold aggro in most cases. He'll be playing in those "most cases", so a low dps Lancer would suffice. Can't say the same for Warrior, rarely see them. Although have seen them hold threat against people dealing 2x their dps.
See this [filtered]? Excuses cuz you know you wrong lol
No all I read was:
no dmg = keep aggro.
Guess we seeing diff. things right or MOST CASES :P
Contrary to popular belief, tanks don't have to deal absurd damage to hold aggro, even in groups where damage exceeds 2m/s a Lancer is dealing less than half their damage in some cases. There are even instances of Lancers doing around 800k/s with the dps still be at/around 2m/s. Lancer is more than capable of being around 2m/s yet so many Lancers are closer to 1m/s and still hold aggro. I wonder why? Maybe because Lancer didn't have their threat generation balanced around the new system or their increased damage? Their lack of need to deal dpps is partly why Lancers aren't known for high dps even though the class is capable of achieving high dps. Brawler, and soon Warrior, are the only tanks that really "need" to deal high dps as tanks as they offer nothing that Lancer has. Isn't it funny how Brawler is "op" because it can do around the dps of a dps, yet a Lancer doing the same thing, with better debuffs, party support, better iframes, mobility, damage reduction and absorb/shield on top of lazy threat generation isn't op?
Also, I don't provide cookie cutter advice, not everyone tanks for the top .1%, and it's pointless to offer them suggestions as if they were. Then again, you and others don't care for facts and like sticking to made up balance points that don't exist. How about explain how I'm "wrong". Most data can be found on the you know what site, and I have over 200 sheets worth of data from my own runs.
K I wanna see vids of you doing 2m/s whenever you feel like it and I wanna know how many ppl here think 800K/s is low for the typical Lancer in an LFG
Waiting
It is not just about being able to do dps, but also to properly block cancel your skills, and proper chaining for seamless battle. Also impossible to skate at high ping lol.
Warrior is somewhat doable with higher ping esp after rework, but you may still miss blocks and chains due to server lag.
Brawler, while somewhat harder to hold growing fury, is still the easiest to tank due to GF itself being able to tank for the player without much timing (timing is still good to maintain GF but you don't have to have it 100% of the time), and also you have an unoptimal but decent roundhouse kick glyph to give extra block frames in your attacks, allowing to maintain aggro while doing damage at the same time. You will not be at the top 10% doing this, but you will generally be able to tank for most average players.
Lancer still has some skills with a higher aggro modifier from what I remember. Still doesn't justify playing lancer on too high of a ping due to how clunky it becomes sadly.
WTB lancer rework for high ping players.