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Now we can say that every new class in the future will be female only.

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  • sanj66sanj66 ✭✭✭✭
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Scarmark wrote: »
    People say that would cost too much to make animations for more than 1 type of body, but BhS really has so little budget to not making just one more kit of that could be pretty similar to each other? even clothes, or new hairs, they are the same race, it would not be hard, and i doubt it would be too priced for them to make it, this thing about "cost too much to do" only applies if they do a classe to all races and genders.
    They have an extremely small team, and to get the class for two different genders in a reasonable time frame would require them to have a larger team.
    Schwerpunkt wrote: »
    counterpoint wrote: »
    The measure of popularity they're basing this on is taking this into account and adjusting for it, and considering trends before all these new classes started too. Female characters are more popular globally than male characters, though less so here and in Europe. It's not based on a self-fulfilling caused by their continued release of female classes.
    That's complete [filtered] though.

    If they released a male-only OP class, it would be as popular as any of the female-only classes simply because it's a new OP class. People would start making male characters like crazy because they want to play the class, and males would become far more popular.

    I can't imagine many more people would have refused to make Brawlers if they were male-only than those who refused because they were female-only, so it is a self-fulfilling thing that BHS is continuing. Female characters were more popular initially, then that popularity grew further as the female-only classes were released and BHS seemingly refuses to look past that.

    It's not since Elin/Female were already popular before Reaper was added, for what you say to be true they would have had to be equal before Reaper was added... but they weren't. Just look at healers, as someone already pointed out, how many of them are Elins/Female? Quite a lot of them. A lot of the non-raced/gender locked classes are still in fact Elin/Female. How many people play Female Amani on those classes? Oh right, nearly no one. Same goes for Popori, and Male Amani. Human Male also isn't that popular due to how they look. Most people weren't even aware of the imbalance of animations either and they still chose Elin. Even where Castanic is better, there's still Elin picked. You, and the others here, may not like Elins/Females, but no need to pretend you represent what the majority likes. The player base decided which races and genders they preferred by playing the game and not posting on forums. It doesn't matter if every forum thread hates what they're doing when most people playing the game generally don't even care enough.

    actually thats quite wrong, elin was not popular prior to the reaper, it was like only higher that popo, baraka and amani i do believe also gender dispersion was along hte lines of 55-45 in favor of female yes but it was basically quite even with elin being unpopular here. after hte reaper and its broken release state the balance shifted and elins became popular, then they started releasin elin only costumes etc.
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Scarmark wrote: »
    People say that would cost too much to make animations for more than 1 type of body, but BhS really has so little budget to not making just one more kit of that could be pretty similar to each other? even clothes, or new hairs, they are the same race, it would not be hard, and i doubt it would be too priced for them to make it, this thing about "cost too much to do" only applies if they do a classe to all races and genders.
    They have an extremely small team, and to get the class for two different genders in a reasonable time frame would require them to have a larger team.
    Schwerpunkt wrote: »
    counterpoint wrote: »
    The measure of popularity they're basing this on is taking this into account and adjusting for it, and considering trends before all these new classes started too. Female characters are more popular globally than male characters, though less so here and in Europe. It's not based on a self-fulfilling caused by their continued release of female classes.
    That's complete [filtered] though.

    If they released a male-only OP class, it would be as popular as any of the female-only classes simply because it's a new OP class. People would start making male characters like crazy because they want to play the class, and males would become far more popular.

    I can't imagine many more people would have refused to make Brawlers if they were male-only than those who refused because they were female-only, so it is a self-fulfilling thing that BHS is continuing. Female characters were more popular initially, then that popularity grew further as the female-only classes were released and BHS seemingly refuses to look past that.

    It's not since Elin/Female were already popular before Reaper was added, for what you say to be true they would have had to be equal before Reaper was added... but they weren't. Just look at healers, as someone already pointed out, how many of them are Elins/Female? Quite a lot of them. A lot of the non-raced/gender locked classes are still in fact Elin/Female. How many people play Female Amani on those classes? Oh right, nearly no one. Same goes for Popori, and Male Amani. Human Male also isn't that popular due to how they look. Most people weren't even aware of the imbalance of animations either and they still chose Elin. Even where Castanic is better, there's still Elin picked. You, and the others here, may not like Elins/Females, but no need to pretend you represent what the majority likes. The player base decided which races and genders they preferred by playing the game and not posting on forums. It doesn't matter if every forum thread hates what they're doing when most people playing the game generally don't even care enough.

    actually thats quite wrong, elin was not popular prior to the reaper, it was like only higher that popo, baraka and amani i do believe also gender dispersion was along hte lines of 55-45 in favor of female yes but it was basically quite even with elin being unpopular here. after hte reaper and its broken release state the balance shifted and elins became popular, then they started releasin elin only costumes etc.

    i joined tera before reaper release and i saw more elin than oher races and anyway you dont know what koreans and japaneses played before reaper release
  • BonbonnieBonbonnie ✭✭✭
    kubitoid wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    i joined tera before reaper release and i saw more elin than oher races
    i joined tera day after f2p switch and i never saw elin until reaper patch :)

    Back in my day, Elin genocide on MT was acceptable. Should still be. B)
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    kubitoid wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    i joined tera before reaper release and i saw more elin than oher races
    i joined tera day after f2p switch and i never saw elin until reaper patch :)

    because you play in valley of titan and elin dont live there B)
  • MelyodisMelyodis ✭✭✭
    They get feedback before making decision like these to make a class gender lock its not by chance or that's how they want it so if you all want them to make a male version lets stop play tera for a week and protest but i know we wont do that XD
  • sanj66sanj66 ✭✭✭✭
    vkobe wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Scarmark wrote: »
    People say that would cost too much to make animations for more than 1 type of body, but BhS really has so little budget to not making just one more kit of that could be pretty similar to each other? even clothes, or new hairs, they are the same race, it would not be hard, and i doubt it would be too priced for them to make it, this thing about "cost too much to do" only applies if they do a classe to all races and genders.
    They have an extremely small team, and to get the class for two different genders in a reasonable time frame would require them to have a larger team.
    Schwerpunkt wrote: »
    counterpoint wrote: »
    The measure of popularity they're basing this on is taking this into account and adjusting for it, and considering trends before all these new classes started too. Female characters are more popular globally than male characters, though less so here and in Europe. It's not based on a self-fulfilling caused by their continued release of female classes.
    That's complete [filtered] though.

    If they released a male-only OP class, it would be as popular as any of the female-only classes simply because it's a new OP class. People would start making male characters like crazy because they want to play the class, and males would become far more popular.

    I can't imagine many more people would have refused to make Brawlers if they were male-only than those who refused because they were female-only, so it is a self-fulfilling thing that BHS is continuing. Female characters were more popular initially, then that popularity grew further as the female-only classes were released and BHS seemingly refuses to look past that.

    It's not since Elin/Female were already popular before Reaper was added, for what you say to be true they would have had to be equal before Reaper was added... but they weren't. Just look at healers, as someone already pointed out, how many of them are Elins/Female? Quite a lot of them. A lot of the non-raced/gender locked classes are still in fact Elin/Female. How many people play Female Amani on those classes? Oh right, nearly no one. Same goes for Popori, and Male Amani. Human Male also isn't that popular due to how they look. Most people weren't even aware of the imbalance of animations either and they still chose Elin. Even where Castanic is better, there's still Elin picked. You, and the others here, may not like Elins/Females, but no need to pretend you represent what the majority likes. The player base decided which races and genders they preferred by playing the game and not posting on forums. It doesn't matter if every forum thread hates what they're doing when most people playing the game generally don't even care enough.

    actually thats quite wrong, elin was not popular prior to the reaper, it was like only higher that popo, baraka and amani i do believe also gender dispersion was along hte lines of 55-45 in favor of female yes but it was basically quite even with elin being unpopular here. after hte reaper and its broken release state the balance shifted and elins became popular, then they started releasin elin only costumes etc.

    i joined tera before reaper release and i saw more elin than oher races and anyway you dont know what koreans and japaneses played before reaper release

    what you see may and is not everything, the company posted actual statistics and still posts yearly.
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    sanj66 wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Scarmark wrote: »
    People say that would cost too much to make animations for more than 1 type of body, but BhS really has so little budget to not making just one more kit of that could be pretty similar to each other? even clothes, or new hairs, they are the same race, it would not be hard, and i doubt it would be too priced for them to make it, this thing about "cost too much to do" only applies if they do a classe to all races and genders.
    They have an extremely small team, and to get the class for two different genders in a reasonable time frame would require them to have a larger team.
    Schwerpunkt wrote: »
    counterpoint wrote: »
    The measure of popularity they're basing this on is taking this into account and adjusting for it, and considering trends before all these new classes started too. Female characters are more popular globally than male characters, though less so here and in Europe. It's not based on a self-fulfilling caused by their continued release of female classes.
    That's complete [filtered] though.

    If they released a male-only OP class, it would be as popular as any of the female-only classes simply because it's a new OP class. People would start making male characters like crazy because they want to play the class, and males would become far more popular.

    I can't imagine many more people would have refused to make Brawlers if they were male-only than those who refused because they were female-only, so it is a self-fulfilling thing that BHS is continuing. Female characters were more popular initially, then that popularity grew further as the female-only classes were released and BHS seemingly refuses to look past that.

    It's not since Elin/Female were already popular before Reaper was added, for what you say to be true they would have had to be equal before Reaper was added... but they weren't. Just look at healers, as someone already pointed out, how many of them are Elins/Female? Quite a lot of them. A lot of the non-raced/gender locked classes are still in fact Elin/Female. How many people play Female Amani on those classes? Oh right, nearly no one. Same goes for Popori, and Male Amani. Human Male also isn't that popular due to how they look. Most people weren't even aware of the imbalance of animations either and they still chose Elin. Even where Castanic is better, there's still Elin picked. You, and the others here, may not like Elins/Females, but no need to pretend you represent what the majority likes. The player base decided which races and genders they preferred by playing the game and not posting on forums. It doesn't matter if every forum thread hates what they're doing when most people playing the game generally don't even care enough.

    actually thats quite wrong, elin was not popular prior to the reaper, it was like only higher that popo, baraka and amani i do believe also gender dispersion was along hte lines of 55-45 in favor of female yes but it was basically quite even with elin being unpopular here. after hte reaper and its broken release state the balance shifted and elins became popular, then they started releasin elin only costumes etc.

    i joined tera before reaper release and i saw more elin than oher races and anyway you dont know what koreans and japaneses played before reaper release

    what you see may and is not everything, the company posted actual statistics and still posts yearly.

    yes and your chartz was in 2012 and reaper was released in 2014 and this chartz was only for western market and if i remember only castanic was more popular than elin here
  • sanj66sanj66 ✭✭✭✭
    vkobe wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Scarmark wrote: »
    People say that would cost too much to make animations for more than 1 type of body, but BhS really has so little budget to not making just one more kit of that could be pretty similar to each other? even clothes, or new hairs, they are the same race, it would not be hard, and i doubt it would be too priced for them to make it, this thing about "cost too much to do" only applies if they do a classe to all races and genders.
    They have an extremely small team, and to get the class for two different genders in a reasonable time frame would require them to have a larger team.
    Schwerpunkt wrote: »
    counterpoint wrote: »
    The measure of popularity they're basing this on is taking this into account and adjusting for it, and considering trends before all these new classes started too. Female characters are more popular globally than male characters, though less so here and in Europe. It's not based on a self-fulfilling caused by their continued release of female classes.
    That's complete [filtered] though.

    If they released a male-only OP class, it would be as popular as any of the female-only classes simply because it's a new OP class. People would start making male characters like crazy because they want to play the class, and males would become far more popular.

    I can't imagine many more people would have refused to make Brawlers if they were male-only than those who refused because they were female-only, so it is a self-fulfilling thing that BHS is continuing. Female characters were more popular initially, then that popularity grew further as the female-only classes were released and BHS seemingly refuses to look past that.

    It's not since Elin/Female were already popular before Reaper was added, for what you say to be true they would have had to be equal before Reaper was added... but they weren't. Just look at healers, as someone already pointed out, how many of them are Elins/Female? Quite a lot of them. A lot of the non-raced/gender locked classes are still in fact Elin/Female. How many people play Female Amani on those classes? Oh right, nearly no one. Same goes for Popori, and Male Amani. Human Male also isn't that popular due to how they look. Most people weren't even aware of the imbalance of animations either and they still chose Elin. Even where Castanic is better, there's still Elin picked. You, and the others here, may not like Elins/Females, but no need to pretend you represent what the majority likes. The player base decided which races and genders they preferred by playing the game and not posting on forums. It doesn't matter if every forum thread hates what they're doing when most people playing the game generally don't even care enough.

    actually thats quite wrong, elin was not popular prior to the reaper, it was like only higher that popo, baraka and amani i do believe also gender dispersion was along hte lines of 55-45 in favor of female yes but it was basically quite even with elin being unpopular here. after hte reaper and its broken release state the balance shifted and elins became popular, then they started releasin elin only costumes etc.

    i joined tera before reaper release and i saw more elin than oher races and anyway you dont know what koreans and japaneses played before reaper release

    what you see may and is not everything, the company posted actual statistics and still posts yearly.

    yes and your chartz was in 2012 and reaper was released in 2014 and this chartz was only for western market and if i remember only castanic was more popular than elin here

    elin was below elves, human and castanics, those were the only stats provided pre reaper on the one year anniversary, those stats were released in 2013 for the year may 1st 2012 to 2013 not for 2012 alone. elins only gained popularity with the reaper and with the elin exlcusive costumes, if you take away all of that they probably would still be one of the least favored races, they have more exclusive costumes, a broken pve class and a broken pvp class.
  • counterpointcounterpoint mod
    edited December 2016
    sanj66 wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Scarmark wrote: »
    People say that would cost too much to make animations for more than 1 type of body, but BhS really has so little budget to not making just one more kit of that could be pretty similar to each other? even clothes, or new hairs, they are the same race, it would not be hard, and i doubt it would be too priced for them to make it, this thing about "cost too much to do" only applies if they do a classe to all races and genders.
    They have an extremely small team, and to get the class for two different genders in a reasonable time frame would require them to have a larger team.
    Schwerpunkt wrote: »
    counterpoint wrote: »
    The measure of popularity they're basing this on is taking this into account and adjusting for it, and considering trends before all these new classes started too. Female characters are more popular globally than male characters, though less so here and in Europe. It's not based on a self-fulfilling caused by their continued release of female classes.
    That's complete [filtered] though.

    If they released a male-only OP class, it would be as popular as any of the female-only classes simply because it's a new OP class. People would start making male characters like crazy because they want to play the class, and males would become far more popular.

    I can't imagine many more people would have refused to make Brawlers if they were male-only than those who refused because they were female-only, so it is a self-fulfilling thing that BHS is continuing. Female characters were more popular initially, then that popularity grew further as the female-only classes were released and BHS seemingly refuses to look past that.

    It's not since Elin/Female were already popular before Reaper was added, for what you say to be true they would have had to be equal before Reaper was added... but they weren't. Just look at healers, as someone already pointed out, how many of them are Elins/Female? Quite a lot of them. A lot of the non-raced/gender locked classes are still in fact Elin/Female. How many people play Female Amani on those classes? Oh right, nearly no one. Same goes for Popori, and Male Amani. Human Male also isn't that popular due to how they look. Most people weren't even aware of the imbalance of animations either and they still chose Elin. Even where Castanic is better, there's still Elin picked. You, and the others here, may not like Elins/Females, but no need to pretend you represent what the majority likes. The player base decided which races and genders they preferred by playing the game and not posting on forums. It doesn't matter if every forum thread hates what they're doing when most people playing the game generally don't even care enough.

    actually thats quite wrong, elin was not popular prior to the reaper, it was like only higher that popo, baraka and amani i do believe also gender dispersion was along hte lines of 55-45 in favor of female yes but it was basically quite even with elin being unpopular here. after hte reaper and its broken release state the balance shifted and elins became popular, then they started releasin elin only costumes etc.

    i joined tera before reaper release and i saw more elin than oher races and anyway you dont know what koreans and japaneses played before reaper release

    what you see may and is not everything, the company posted actual statistics and still posts yearly.

    yes and your chartz was in 2012 and reaper was released in 2014 and this chartz was only for western market and if i remember only castanic was more popular than elin here

    elin was below elves, human and castanics, those were the only stats provided pre reaper on the one year anniversary, those stats were released in 2013 for the year may 1st 2012 to 2013 not for 2012 alone. elins only gained popularity with the reaper and with the elin exlcusive costumes, if you take away all of that they probably would still be one of the least favored races, they have more exclusive costumes, a broken pve class and a broken pvp class.

    Elves, Human, and Castanics stats were counting both male and female. Elin, just female (since there is only one). So if you're splitting it by gender as well as by race (as BHS is doing when making these decisions), Elin has always been the most popular single race/gender combination in North America, and even more so in other markets, and this before the release of Reaper.

    55.82% Female
    44.18% Male

    18.34% Elin (only female)
    13.64% Castanic Female (24.43% Castanic overall)
    11.24% Human Female (20.15% Human overall)
    10.56% High Elf Female (18.91% High Elf overall)

    http://tera.enmasse.com/datastore/images/2013/05/01/17/27/24/441/TERA_Infographic_Final.jpg
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    sanj66 wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Scarmark wrote: »
    People say that would cost too much to make animations for more than 1 type of body, but BhS really has so little budget to not making just one more kit of that could be pretty similar to each other? even clothes, or new hairs, they are the same race, it would not be hard, and i doubt it would be too priced for them to make it, this thing about "cost too much to do" only applies if they do a classe to all races and genders.
    They have an extremely small team, and to get the class for two different genders in a reasonable time frame would require them to have a larger team.
    Schwerpunkt wrote: »
    counterpoint wrote: »
    The measure of popularity they're basing this on is taking this into account and adjusting for it, and considering trends before all these new classes started too. Female characters are more popular globally than male characters, though less so here and in Europe. It's not based on a self-fulfilling caused by their continued release of female classes.
    That's complete [filtered] though.

    If they released a male-only OP class, it would be as popular as any of the female-only classes simply because it's a new OP class. People would start making male characters like crazy because they want to play the class, and males would become far more popular.

    I can't imagine many more people would have refused to make Brawlers if they were male-only than those who refused because they were female-only, so it is a self-fulfilling thing that BHS is continuing. Female characters were more popular initially, then that popularity grew further as the female-only classes were released and BHS seemingly refuses to look past that.

    It's not since Elin/Female were already popular before Reaper was added, for what you say to be true they would have had to be equal before Reaper was added... but they weren't. Just look at healers, as someone already pointed out, how many of them are Elins/Female? Quite a lot of them. A lot of the non-raced/gender locked classes are still in fact Elin/Female. How many people play Female Amani on those classes? Oh right, nearly no one. Same goes for Popori, and Male Amani. Human Male also isn't that popular due to how they look. Most people weren't even aware of the imbalance of animations either and they still chose Elin. Even where Castanic is better, there's still Elin picked. You, and the others here, may not like Elins/Females, but no need to pretend you represent what the majority likes. The player base decided which races and genders they preferred by playing the game and not posting on forums. It doesn't matter if every forum thread hates what they're doing when most people playing the game generally don't even care enough.

    actually thats quite wrong, elin was not popular prior to the reaper, it was like only higher that popo, baraka and amani i do believe also gender dispersion was along hte lines of 55-45 in favor of female yes but it was basically quite even with elin being unpopular here. after hte reaper and its broken release state the balance shifted and elins became popular, then they started releasin elin only costumes etc.

    i joined tera before reaper release and i saw more elin than oher races and anyway you dont know what koreans and japaneses played before reaper release

    what you see may and is not everything, the company posted actual statistics and still posts yearly.

    yes and your chartz was in 2012 and reaper was released in 2014 and this chartz was only for western market and if i remember only castanic was more popular than elin here

    elin was below elves, human and castanics, those were the only stats provided pre reaper on the one year anniversary, those stats were released in 2013 for the year may 1st 2012 to 2013 not for 2012 alone. elins only gained popularity with the reaper and with the elin exlcusive costumes, if you take away all of that they probably would still be one of the least favored races, they have more exclusive costumes, a broken pve class and a broken pvp class.

    the chartz said for 2012, i dont remember the year 2013, else proove it than it include the whole 2013 too

    i only see castanic be more popular than elin in this chartz

    and like i said it was only for western market
  • sanj66sanj66 ✭✭✭✭
    counterpoint wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Scarmark wrote: »
    People say that would cost too much to make animations for more than 1 type of body, but BhS really has so little budget to not making just one more kit of that could be pretty similar to each other? even clothes, or new hairs, they are the same race, it would not be hard, and i doubt it would be too priced for them to make it, this thing about "cost too much to do" only applies if they do a classe to all races and genders.
    They have an extremely small team, and to get the class for two different genders in a reasonable time frame would require them to have a larger team.
    Schwerpunkt wrote: »
    counterpoint wrote: »
    The measure of popularity they're basing this on is taking this into account and adjusting for it, and considering trends before all these new classes started too. Female characters are more popular globally than male characters, though less so here and in Europe. It's not based on a self-fulfilling caused by their continued release of female classes.
    That's complete [filtered] though.

    If they released a male-only OP class, it would be as popular as any of the female-only classes simply because it's a new OP class. People would start making male characters like crazy because they want to play the class, and males would become far more popular.

    I can't imagine many more people would have refused to make Brawlers if they were male-only than those who refused because they were female-only, so it is a self-fulfilling thing that BHS is continuing. Female characters were more popular initially, then that popularity grew further as the female-only classes were released and BHS seemingly refuses to look past that.

    It's not since Elin/Female were already popular before Reaper was added, for what you say to be true they would have had to be equal before Reaper was added... but they weren't. Just look at healers, as someone already pointed out, how many of them are Elins/Female? Quite a lot of them. A lot of the non-raced/gender locked classes are still in fact Elin/Female. How many people play Female Amani on those classes? Oh right, nearly no one. Same goes for Popori, and Male Amani. Human Male also isn't that popular due to how they look. Most people weren't even aware of the imbalance of animations either and they still chose Elin. Even where Castanic is better, there's still Elin picked. You, and the others here, may not like Elins/Females, but no need to pretend you represent what the majority likes. The player base decided which races and genders they preferred by playing the game and not posting on forums. It doesn't matter if every forum thread hates what they're doing when most people playing the game generally don't even care enough.

    actually thats quite wrong, elin was not popular prior to the reaper, it was like only higher that popo, baraka and amani i do believe also gender dispersion was along hte lines of 55-45 in favor of female yes but it was basically quite even with elin being unpopular here. after hte reaper and its broken release state the balance shifted and elins became popular, then they started releasin elin only costumes etc.

    i joined tera before reaper release and i saw more elin than oher races and anyway you dont know what koreans and japaneses played before reaper release

    what you see may and is not everything, the company posted actual statistics and still posts yearly.

    yes and your chartz was in 2012 and reaper was released in 2014 and this chartz was only for western market and if i remember only castanic was more popular than elin here

    elin was below elves, human and castanics, those were the only stats provided pre reaper on the one year anniversary, those stats were released in 2013 for the year may 1st 2012 to 2013 not for 2012 alone. elins only gained popularity with the reaper and with the elin exlcusive costumes, if you take away all of that they probably would still be one of the least favored races, they have more exclusive costumes, a broken pve class and a broken pvp class.

    Elves, Human, and Castanics stats were counting both male and female. Elin, just female (since there is only one). So if you're splitting it by gender as well as by race (as BHS is doing when making these decisions), Elin has always been the most popular single race/gender combination in North America, and even more so in other markets, and this before the release of Reaper.

    55.82% Female
    44.18% Male

    18.34% Elin (only female)
    13.64% Castanic Female (24.43% Castanic overall)
    11.24% Human Female (20.15% Human overall)
    10.56% High Elf Female (18.91% High Elf overall)

    http://tera.enmasse.com/datastore/images/2013/05/01/17/27/24/441/TERA_Infographic_Final.jpg

    they said race, elin is a race not a gender, hence it was one of the least prefered races.
  • sanj66sanj66 ✭✭✭✭
    vkobe wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Scarmark wrote: »
    People say that would cost too much to make animations for more than 1 type of body, but BhS really has so little budget to not making just one more kit of that could be pretty similar to each other? even clothes, or new hairs, they are the same race, it would not be hard, and i doubt it would be too priced for them to make it, this thing about "cost too much to do" only applies if they do a classe to all races and genders.
    They have an extremely small team, and to get the class for two different genders in a reasonable time frame would require them to have a larger team.
    Schwerpunkt wrote: »
    counterpoint wrote: »
    The measure of popularity they're basing this on is taking this into account and adjusting for it, and considering trends before all these new classes started too. Female characters are more popular globally than male characters, though less so here and in Europe. It's not based on a self-fulfilling caused by their continued release of female classes.
    That's complete [filtered] though.

    If they released a male-only OP class, it would be as popular as any of the female-only classes simply because it's a new OP class. People would start making male characters like crazy because they want to play the class, and males would become far more popular.

    I can't imagine many more people would have refused to make Brawlers if they were male-only than those who refused because they were female-only, so it is a self-fulfilling thing that BHS is continuing. Female characters were more popular initially, then that popularity grew further as the female-only classes were released and BHS seemingly refuses to look past that.

    It's not since Elin/Female were already popular before Reaper was added, for what you say to be true they would have had to be equal before Reaper was added... but they weren't. Just look at healers, as someone already pointed out, how many of them are Elins/Female? Quite a lot of them. A lot of the non-raced/gender locked classes are still in fact Elin/Female. How many people play Female Amani on those classes? Oh right, nearly no one. Same goes for Popori, and Male Amani. Human Male also isn't that popular due to how they look. Most people weren't even aware of the imbalance of animations either and they still chose Elin. Even where Castanic is better, there's still Elin picked. You, and the others here, may not like Elins/Females, but no need to pretend you represent what the majority likes. The player base decided which races and genders they preferred by playing the game and not posting on forums. It doesn't matter if every forum thread hates what they're doing when most people playing the game generally don't even care enough.

    actually thats quite wrong, elin was not popular prior to the reaper, it was like only higher that popo, baraka and amani i do believe also gender dispersion was along hte lines of 55-45 in favor of female yes but it was basically quite even with elin being unpopular here. after hte reaper and its broken release state the balance shifted and elins became popular, then they started releasin elin only costumes etc.

    i joined tera before reaper release and i saw more elin than oher races and anyway you dont know what koreans and japaneses played before reaper release

    what you see may and is not everything, the company posted actual statistics and still posts yearly.

    yes and your chartz was in 2012 and reaper was released in 2014 and this chartz was only for western market and if i remember only castanic was more popular than elin here

    elin was below elves, human and castanics, those were the only stats provided pre reaper on the one year anniversary, those stats were released in 2013 for the year may 1st 2012 to 2013 not for 2012 alone. elins only gained popularity with the reaper and with the elin exlcusive costumes, if you take away all of that they probably would still be one of the least favored races, they have more exclusive costumes, a broken pve class and a broken pvp class.

    the chartz said for 2012, i dont remember the year 2013, else proove it than it include the whole 2013 too

    i only see castanic be more popular than elin in this chartz

    and like i said it was only for western market

    it was for the year 2012 to 2013 for the one year anniversary, you cannot have a chart for may 1st 2012 to may 1st 2012.......as that would be only 1 day lol. it was released in 2012 and the statistics were taken a year later in 2013 before the reaper and yes it was the western market, btw do you know even after all those female gendrelocked classes in korea there is still a quarter of the population male there? and they alos complain about the genderlocking issue?
    http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/02/tera-stats-released-for-one-year-anniversary
    thats the story and the chart and counterpoint also posted the chart.
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    sanj66 wrote: »
    counterpoint wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Scarmark wrote: »
    People say that would cost too much to make animations for more than 1 type of body, but BhS really has so little budget to not making just one more kit of that could be pretty similar to each other? even clothes, or new hairs, they are the same race, it would not be hard, and i doubt it would be too priced for them to make it, this thing about "cost too much to do" only applies if they do a classe to all races and genders.
    They have an extremely small team, and to get the class for two different genders in a reasonable time frame would require them to have a larger team.
    Schwerpunkt wrote: »
    counterpoint wrote: »
    The measure of popularity they're basing this on is taking this into account and adjusting for it, and considering trends before all these new classes started too. Female characters are more popular globally than male characters, though less so here and in Europe. It's not based on a self-fulfilling caused by their continued release of female classes.
    That's complete [filtered] though.

    If they released a male-only OP class, it would be as popular as any of the female-only classes simply because it's a new OP class. People would start making male characters like crazy because they want to play the class, and males would become far more popular.

    I can't imagine many more people would have refused to make Brawlers if they were male-only than those who refused because they were female-only, so it is a self-fulfilling thing that BHS is continuing. Female characters were more popular initially, then that popularity grew further as the female-only classes were released and BHS seemingly refuses to look past that.

    It's not since Elin/Female were already popular before Reaper was added, for what you say to be true they would have had to be equal before Reaper was added... but they weren't. Just look at healers, as someone already pointed out, how many of them are Elins/Female? Quite a lot of them. A lot of the non-raced/gender locked classes are still in fact Elin/Female. How many people play Female Amani on those classes? Oh right, nearly no one. Same goes for Popori, and Male Amani. Human Male also isn't that popular due to how they look. Most people weren't even aware of the imbalance of animations either and they still chose Elin. Even where Castanic is better, there's still Elin picked. You, and the others here, may not like Elins/Females, but no need to pretend you represent what the majority likes. The player base decided which races and genders they preferred by playing the game and not posting on forums. It doesn't matter if every forum thread hates what they're doing when most people playing the game generally don't even care enough.

    actually thats quite wrong, elin was not popular prior to the reaper, it was like only higher that popo, baraka and amani i do believe also gender dispersion was along hte lines of 55-45 in favor of female yes but it was basically quite even with elin being unpopular here. after hte reaper and its broken release state the balance shifted and elins became popular, then they started releasin elin only costumes etc.

    i joined tera before reaper release and i saw more elin than oher races and anyway you dont know what koreans and japaneses played before reaper release

    what you see may and is not everything, the company posted actual statistics and still posts yearly.

    yes and your chartz was in 2012 and reaper was released in 2014 and this chartz was only for western market and if i remember only castanic was more popular than elin here

    elin was below elves, human and castanics, those were the only stats provided pre reaper on the one year anniversary, those stats were released in 2013 for the year may 1st 2012 to 2013 not for 2012 alone. elins only gained popularity with the reaper and with the elin exlcusive costumes, if you take away all of that they probably would still be one of the least favored races, they have more exclusive costumes, a broken pve class and a broken pvp class.

    Elves, Human, and Castanics stats were counting both male and female. Elin, just female (since there is only one). So if you're splitting it by gender as well as by race (as BHS is doing when making these decisions), Elin has always been the most popular single race/gender combination in North America, and even more so in other markets, and this before the release of Reaper.

    55.82% Female
    44.18% Male

    18.34% Elin (only female)
    13.64% Castanic Female (24.43% Castanic overall)
    11.24% Human Female (20.15% Human overall)
    10.56% High Elf Female (18.91% High Elf overall)

    http://tera.enmasse.com/datastore/images/2013/05/01/17/27/24/441/TERA_Infographic_Final.jpg

    they said race, elin is a race not a gender, hence it was one of the least prefered races.

    ye only by less of 1% with elf and 2% with human

    and first anniverssary is not the whole 2013 ;)

    but anyway i wish to know % elin created in april 2013

    i am sure than the big majority of elf, human and castanic was created in the first month of tera and than at the first anniverssary of the tera the majority of them stopped to play tera
  • sanj66sanj66 ✭✭✭✭
    vkobe wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    counterpoint wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Scarmark wrote: »
    People say that would cost too much to make animations for more than 1 type of body, but BhS really has so little budget to not making just one more kit of that could be pretty similar to each other? even clothes, or new hairs, they are the same race, it would not be hard, and i doubt it would be too priced for them to make it, this thing about "cost too much to do" only applies if they do a classe to all races and genders.
    They have an extremely small team, and to get the class for two different genders in a reasonable time frame would require them to have a larger team.
    Schwerpunkt wrote: »
    counterpoint wrote: »
    The measure of popularity they're basing this on is taking this into account and adjusting for it, and considering trends before all these new classes started too. Female characters are more popular globally than male characters, though less so here and in Europe. It's not based on a self-fulfilling caused by their continued release of female classes.
    That's complete [filtered] though.

    If they released a male-only OP class, it would be as popular as any of the female-only classes simply because it's a new OP class. People would start making male characters like crazy because they want to play the class, and males would become far more popular.

    I can't imagine many more people would have refused to make Brawlers if they were male-only than those who refused because they were female-only, so it is a self-fulfilling thing that BHS is continuing. Female characters were more popular initially, then that popularity grew further as the female-only classes were released and BHS seemingly refuses to look past that.

    It's not since Elin/Female were already popular before Reaper was added, for what you say to be true they would have had to be equal before Reaper was added... but they weren't. Just look at healers, as someone already pointed out, how many of them are Elins/Female? Quite a lot of them. A lot of the non-raced/gender locked classes are still in fact Elin/Female. How many people play Female Amani on those classes? Oh right, nearly no one. Same goes for Popori, and Male Amani. Human Male also isn't that popular due to how they look. Most people weren't even aware of the imbalance of animations either and they still chose Elin. Even where Castanic is better, there's still Elin picked. You, and the others here, may not like Elins/Females, but no need to pretend you represent what the majority likes. The player base decided which races and genders they preferred by playing the game and not posting on forums. It doesn't matter if every forum thread hates what they're doing when most people playing the game generally don't even care enough.

    actually thats quite wrong, elin was not popular prior to the reaper, it was like only higher that popo, baraka and amani i do believe also gender dispersion was along hte lines of 55-45 in favor of female yes but it was basically quite even with elin being unpopular here. after hte reaper and its broken release state the balance shifted and elins became popular, then they started releasin elin only costumes etc.

    i joined tera before reaper release and i saw more elin than oher races and anyway you dont know what koreans and japaneses played before reaper release

    what you see may and is not everything, the company posted actual statistics and still posts yearly.

    yes and your chartz was in 2012 and reaper was released in 2014 and this chartz was only for western market and if i remember only castanic was more popular than elin here

    elin was below elves, human and castanics, those were the only stats provided pre reaper on the one year anniversary, those stats were released in 2013 for the year may 1st 2012 to 2013 not for 2012 alone. elins only gained popularity with the reaper and with the elin exlcusive costumes, if you take away all of that they probably would still be one of the least favored races, they have more exclusive costumes, a broken pve class and a broken pvp class.

    Elves, Human, and Castanics stats were counting both male and female. Elin, just female (since there is only one). So if you're splitting it by gender as well as by race (as BHS is doing when making these decisions), Elin has always been the most popular single race/gender combination in North America, and even more so in other markets, and this before the release of Reaper.

    55.82% Female
    44.18% Male

    18.34% Elin (only female)
    13.64% Castanic Female (24.43% Castanic overall)
    11.24% Human Female (20.15% Human overall)
    10.56% High Elf Female (18.91% High Elf overall)

    http://tera.enmasse.com/datastore/images/2013/05/01/17/27/24/441/TERA_Infographic_Final.jpg

    they said race, elin is a race not a gender, hence it was one of the least prefered races.

    ye only by less of 1% with elf and 2% with human

    and first anniverssary is not the whole 2013 ;)

    but anyway i wish to know % elin created in april 2013

    i am sure than the big majority of elf, human and castanic was created in the first month of tera and than at the first anniverssary of the tera the majority of them stopped to play tera

    no offence but can you read and understand......since my first psot i said for the first anniversary, may 2012 to 2013 pre reaper time........i never said for the whole of 2012 and 2013 as they either release statistics per anniversary or per year.
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