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Remove Imp mats or Drop Imp design.

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  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2016
    Shikine wrote: »
    You think disecting someones reply will help your case?
    Why not? It's fairly easy and takes no effort.
    Shikine wrote: »
    what you do is just disgusting
    Yes, I know, people tend not to like it when a person rationalizes a situation.
    Shikine wrote: »
    He is one of the few people who care to have a proper conversation on a forum and you treat him like dirt.
    He implied I wasn't even human, and that I was terrible. Feel free to tell me how that's a "proper conversation" and I'm the one treating anyone like dirt. I have yet to show anyone any form of hostility while two people choose to be aggressive towards me over literally absolutely nothing.
    Shikine wrote: »
    Again, please do not take sections and reply on them. I would like to read 1 complete answer from you, not reaction to every word I write. Thats what a conversation is.
    I reply in the fashion I choose, just as you choose to be completely disrespectful.
    Shikine wrote: »
    Furthermore I am never going to have an overcivilized conversation here with you as english is not my main language, not even the second
    English is my 4th language. My spelling mostly comes from google's auto correct and I frequently check a dictionary for spelling.
    Shikine wrote: »
    On the matter of designs:
    Read you own post and tell me it was not written in a discarding manner
    I am from the United States, I am innocent until you prove me guilty. I proved that you and your accomplices are the ones ignoring the feelings of others and asked you to do the same, you, and your accomplices have failed to do such a thing over 3 posts now.
    Shikine wrote: »
    but rather being interested or giving any sensible reply. Because it does not, it is simply discarding the original problem and giving a sarcastic answer.
    I fail to see where my original statement was sarcastic. You are aware a ton of people have designs, right? I can make more metal gloves/shoes if I want for my alts using the mats that drop. If they don't drop, I can't make more gloves/shoes for my alts. This is just hypothetical.
    Shikine wrote: »
    But please, do the job you took on and write on the EME forum that the current drop ratio of Imperator designs is critically low.
    The forum has a search function. Imperator design rates were discussed a while ago.
    Shikine wrote: »
    Experience does not back your opinion on drop rates up (just check prices, one Protestar costs 70k, and thats a class specific weapon, not even a shared item like the glove or boots), therefore you are not right.
    I stated Imperator designs don't even drop at all, there is no "low drop rate", they don't drop, and when they did drop I did in fact state the rate was nearly non existent at least 3 times in this very thread. You simply proved you either don't bother to read anything and are arguing for the sake of arguing, or you are trolling in an attempt to irritate me hoping I respond out of anger, which again, is never happening. You're better off finding a different target. At this point you're violating at least 2 or 3 forum rules.
    Shikine wrote: »
    Thats it. Thats all we asked for, not a little essay about your opinion on the word "whine" and "drop rate" or anything else.
    Lets see here. What is the title of this thread?
    Remove Imp mats or Drop Imp design.

    Is this thread really asking for more Imp Designs? Notice how the title puts removing the mats first. Did you read the original post of the topic? Lets see what they are talking about, I'll summarize for you. "Remove Imperator materials and make getting Ambush easier, if you don't have +15 Ambush you can't play Tera".

    Can you explain to me how removing Imperator Mats and making Ambush easier to get is going to make Imperator designs drop? I think you should probably fully read the contents of a post before blindly supporting it.

    This thread is nothing but his usual complaint about +15 Ambush. Majority of his posts on forums are complaining about classes, or posting fake numbers saying Ambush deals double the dps of Imperator. (or something like that)
    Reference:
    dinners wrote: »
    Yeah. I know. But, it's also true that, there are too much dps gap between +15 ambush and +12 Guile. Prob. +15 Ambush dps can do 3 times more dps than Guile. More LF group will ignore or kick out Guile dps later
    https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/comment/91752/#Comment_91752

    @TheCatalyst
    Yamazuki, plis do ur job and write ur report. Stop huffing on those anpan!! :awesome:
    I did, over a month ago. Only realistic solution are events, or the new instance that -may- drop designs, I can't remember if it did or not. Just remember inners and gold finger tokens. Although, this thread is asking for Imperator to be removed with Ambush mats dropping in its place, which is feedback I am not going to forward. I find it unlikely any of the others will as well.
  • LesbianViLesbianVi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Someone from player council shouldn't be there anymore, I mean it, I am fed up with the attitude.

    Also I like to have IMP cause for me and my ping Ambush is hella hard :D lol
  • LesbianViLesbianVi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cyborq wrote: »
    Wow. I am amazed how people are going at Yamazuki like she(he?) is rude or offensive towards you guys.
    She's not working in a kindergarten. You people are, or at least should be, adults.

    As for the Imp designs, I think they could increase the drop rate instead of removing the mats.
    I agree with it sounding more selfish and rude to say "remove mat drops so that the people who already have designs can't use them".

    Are you kidding me? or Are you kidding yourself? So if we are adult we don't have the right to criticize anything? any thread that criticize a problem get an attitude and unrelated responds from him/her. Giving points are alright but if I am here arguing something it is b/c I like the game I could live it. your reply also is not mature at all.
  • CyborqCyborq ✭✭
    edited December 2016
    LesbianVi wrote: »
    Cyborq wrote: »
    Wow. I am amazed how people are going at Yamazuki like she(he?) is rude or offensive towards you guys.
    She's not working in a kindergarten. You people are, or at least should be, adults.

    As for the Imp designs, I think they could increase the drop rate instead of removing the mats.
    I agree with it sounding more selfish and rude to say "remove mat drops so that the people who already have designs can't use them".

    Are you kidding me? or Are you kidding yourself? So if we are adult we don't have the right to criticize anything? any thread that criticize a problem get an attitude and unrelated responds from him/her. Giving points are alright but if I am here arguing something it is b/c I like the game I could live it. your reply also is not mature at all.

    Neither kidding myself nor you, as a matter of fact.
    You'd rather have someone in the player council promise the players rainbows and sunshine, kiss their asses, and then not be able to deliver?
    I know I wouldn't. Tell me, HOW is it rude or heartless that he said; "I suppose for those who have the design."?
    That was the initial comment from him that was found to be a problem with.
    Is he not allowed for an opinion, or to say why he thinks the drops are as they are?
    I don't call it criticism to attack him and tell him he's heartless for something like that.


    You guys are acting like he said something along the lines of "That's just how it is, quit crying about it you bunch of sissies."

    After what he got I am not surprised if you found his dissected responses sprinkled with some attitude.

    If you don't find my response mature, that's fine. I do stand by my opinion though.
  • SSNM(410) drops versa.
    SSHM(417) drops obkma and SCHM(417) drops bark and these dungeons are only places to get them respectively.
    SSHM and SCHM drop versa too.
    We need 8 versa and 10 of both obkmas and barks to make an IMP glove.
    Nice dungeon drop design.
  • Yamazuki wrote: »
    Yamazuki, plis do ur job and write ur report. Stop huffing on those anpan!! :awesome:
    I did, over a month ago. Only realistic solution are events, or the new instance that -may- drop designs, I can't remember if it did or not. Just remember inners and gold finger tokens. Although, this thread is asking for Imperator to be removed with Ambush mats dropping in its place, which is feedback I am not going to forward. I find it unlikely any of the others will as well.

    U did what? Huffing on anpan? U know that is just a joke, right?
    I didn't really mean that u should write an actual report.
    O.o
  • sanj66sanj66 ✭✭✭✭
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Lets see here. What is the title of this thread?
    Remove Imp mats or Drop Imp design.

    Is this thread really asking for more Imp Designs? Notice how the title puts removing the mats first. Did you read the original post of the topic? Lets see what they are talking about, I'll summarize for you. "Remove Imperator materials and make getting Ambush easier, if you don't have +15 Ambush you can't play Tera".

    Can you explain to me how removing Imperator Mats and making Ambush easier to get is going to make Imperator designs drop? I think you should probably fully read the contents of a post before blindly supporting it.

    This thread is nothing but his usual complaint about +15 Ambush. Majority of his posts on forums are complaining about classes, or posting fake numbers saying Ambush deals double the dps of Imperator. (or something like that)

    for some one who claims to be from the united states your english skills seems to be pretty lacking, remove imp mats or drop imp design or make ambush easier to get, lets see how you came up with remove imp mats, make ambush easier to get to make imp designs drop? lol, your interpretation of the title and phrase is completely botched, also not supporting him but the people who have imp designs are more than likely already wearing imp, how many +15ing imp pieces have you seen recently or even since maybe a month ago? the mats as drops are literally pointless if designs dont drop for the mats to be used. he does have a valid point here but as always with you with your player council status, i am always right you are wrong so you can suck it attitude. i really question how some of you even got picked outside of swiping.
  • Zbest1Zbest1
    edited December 2016
    Cyborq wrote: »
    Wow. I am amazed how people are going at Yamazuki like she(he?) is rude or offensive towards you guys.
    She's not working in a kindergarten. You people are, or at least should be, adults.

    Nah, he/she(Yamazuki) came across as smart-4ss and was called on it as he/she should be. Then instead of owning to his/her true sentiment tried to weasel out "à la politician-esque".

    Cyborq wrote: »
    You guys are acting like he said something along the lines of "That's just how it is, quit crying about it you bunch of sissies."

    Maybe cause that's really what he/she meant? I frequent the forums a bit and have read quite a few of Yamazuki's comments, the attitude I take is definitely a patronizing one. So to me I can easily see why a vague one-liner from him/her can be construed as sarcastic. Coming back and trying to say otherwise by dissecting other people's posts sentence by sentence only makes him look even more like a pr_i_ck.



  • I got an ambush weapon box from CU
    I am happy
  • dinners wrote: »
    It seems like, it's almost impossible to get IMP design now. But, we still get useless IMP mats from dungeons.
    There are not many Imp designs left in trade broker.

    Please change mat/ reward drops from dungeons.

    -We need more Imp design or delete imp mats from dungeon. 2 envy crystal drops in HM. Reduce Amp mat price in BG shop. Change reward drops in dungeon.

    -Currently, no +15 gear = no HH = less raid party for HH = less rewards from HH = no ambush gear box later.

    Just farm them, stop complaining and slacking in the game. What you are asking is basically going to make people slacking off because less effort to get the mats and design. if you want to get everything you want easily, you are playing the wrong game and quit the game then play pokemon go dude.
  • TeraDestinyTeraDestiny ✭✭
    edited December 2016
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    He implied I wasn't even human, and that I was terrible. Feel free to tell me how that's a "proper conversation" and I'm the one treating anyone like dirt. I have yet to show anyone any form of hostility while two people choose to be aggressive towards me over literally absolutely nothing.
    I never implied that, you are just putting words in my mouth that I never said. I said the following things:
    - You and the other council members refute us often needlessly, despite being there to mediate between us and the staff
    - Players are reasonable enough to not want sugarcoating or being promised things that are not possible
    - Council members seem to be taking sides with the staff

    I never said that you, or any other council member is "bad" or less than a human being. I can't, nor am I willing to assume anything based on someone's game and forum personae. I can only talk about the things that transpire, so please don't make yourself a victim here (at least in our exchange). If you want to cherry pick things, the "mortals" part was only referring to non-council members, and it was meant as a light comical jab.

    I know about you as much as you know about me maybe you know about me more, since you can safely assume how much I play apparently, but I can say this - You are not presenting a case in court when you interact with other players. As bad as we are, it is us who play the game after all. Our complains are often pleas for handouts, but you folks (council members) give us these bureaucratic-like responses like we are in line at the post office rather than talking about a game.

    Try and make your posts seem less like answering support tickets, and more like fellow players talking with each other, that's all I've been saying.
  • Zbest1 wrote: »
    Cyborq wrote: »
    Wow. I am amazed how people are going at Yamazuki like she(he?) is rude or offensive towards you guys.
    She's not working in a kindergarten. You people are, or at least should be, adults.

    Nah, he/she(Yamazuki) came across as smart-4ss and was called on it as he/she should be. Then instead of owning to his/her true sentiment tried to weasel out "à la politician-esque".

    Cyborq wrote: »
    You guys are acting like he said something along the lines of "That's just how it is, quit crying about it you bunch of sissies."

    Maybe cause that's really what he/she meant? I frequent the forums a bit and have read quite a few of Yamazuki's comments, the attitude I take is definitely a patronizing one. So to me I can easily see why a vague one-liner from him/her can be construed as sarcastic. Coming back and trying to say otherwise by dissecting other people's posts sentence by sentence only makes him look even more like a pr_i_ck.



    Reading more than someone types or assuming what someone means is kind of unfair.
    I've seen many responses from him too and although I can't say he's the most positive person around I do think he's among those with the most common sense.

    Don't know how being in the player council goes, but from what I've read from him in only -this- post, I can imagine it would make me salty too.
    I mean come on... "go kill yourself"? Seriously?
  • SpacecatsSpacecats ✭✭✭✭✭
    This thread has turned into nothing but bickering and personal attacks so I'm closing it. Some of you have received moderator warnings. Remember that you're expected to treat your fellow TERA players with respect even if you disagree with their opinions.
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