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Now we can say that every new class in the future will be female only.

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  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    sanj66 wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    counterpoint wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Scarmark wrote: »
    People say that would cost too much to make animations for more than 1 type of body, but BhS really has so little budget to not making just one more kit of that could be pretty similar to each other? even clothes, or new hairs, they are the same race, it would not be hard, and i doubt it would be too priced for them to make it, this thing about "cost too much to do" only applies if they do a classe to all races and genders.
    They have an extremely small team, and to get the class for two different genders in a reasonable time frame would require them to have a larger team.
    Schwerpunkt wrote: »
    counterpoint wrote: »
    The measure of popularity they're basing this on is taking this into account and adjusting for it, and considering trends before all these new classes started too. Female characters are more popular globally than male characters, though less so here and in Europe. It's not based on a self-fulfilling caused by their continued release of female classes.
    That's complete [filtered] though.

    If they released a male-only OP class, it would be as popular as any of the female-only classes simply because it's a new OP class. People would start making male characters like crazy because they want to play the class, and males would become far more popular.

    I can't imagine many more people would have refused to make Brawlers if they were male-only than those who refused because they were female-only, so it is a self-fulfilling thing that BHS is continuing. Female characters were more popular initially, then that popularity grew further as the female-only classes were released and BHS seemingly refuses to look past that.

    It's not since Elin/Female were already popular before Reaper was added, for what you say to be true they would have had to be equal before Reaper was added... but they weren't. Just look at healers, as someone already pointed out, how many of them are Elins/Female? Quite a lot of them. A lot of the non-raced/gender locked classes are still in fact Elin/Female. How many people play Female Amani on those classes? Oh right, nearly no one. Same goes for Popori, and Male Amani. Human Male also isn't that popular due to how they look. Most people weren't even aware of the imbalance of animations either and they still chose Elin. Even where Castanic is better, there's still Elin picked. You, and the others here, may not like Elins/Females, but no need to pretend you represent what the majority likes. The player base decided which races and genders they preferred by playing the game and not posting on forums. It doesn't matter if every forum thread hates what they're doing when most people playing the game generally don't even care enough.

    actually thats quite wrong, elin was not popular prior to the reaper, it was like only higher that popo, baraka and amani i do believe also gender dispersion was along hte lines of 55-45 in favor of female yes but it was basically quite even with elin being unpopular here. after hte reaper and its broken release state the balance shifted and elins became popular, then they started releasin elin only costumes etc.

    i joined tera before reaper release and i saw more elin than oher races and anyway you dont know what koreans and japaneses played before reaper release

    what you see may and is not everything, the company posted actual statistics and still posts yearly.

    yes and your chartz was in 2012 and reaper was released in 2014 and this chartz was only for western market and if i remember only castanic was more popular than elin here

    elin was below elves, human and castanics, those were the only stats provided pre reaper on the one year anniversary, those stats were released in 2013 for the year may 1st 2012 to 2013 not for 2012 alone. elins only gained popularity with the reaper and with the elin exlcusive costumes, if you take away all of that they probably would still be one of the least favored races, they have more exclusive costumes, a broken pve class and a broken pvp class.

    Elves, Human, and Castanics stats were counting both male and female. Elin, just female (since there is only one). So if you're splitting it by gender as well as by race (as BHS is doing when making these decisions), Elin has always been the most popular single race/gender combination in North America, and even more so in other markets, and this before the release of Reaper.

    55.82% Female
    44.18% Male

    18.34% Elin (only female)
    13.64% Castanic Female (24.43% Castanic overall)
    11.24% Human Female (20.15% Human overall)
    10.56% High Elf Female (18.91% High Elf overall)

    http://tera.enmasse.com/datastore/images/2013/05/01/17/27/24/441/TERA_Infographic_Final.jpg

    they said race, elin is a race not a gender, hence it was one of the least prefered races.

    ye only by less of 1% with elf and 2% with human

    and first anniverssary is not the whole 2013 ;)

    but anyway i wish to know % elin created in april 2013

    i am sure than the big majority of elf, human and castanic was created in the first month of tera and than at the first anniverssary of the tera the majority of them stopped to play tera

    no offence but can you read and understand......since my first psot i said for the first anniversary, may 2012 to 2013 pre reaper time........i never said for the whole of 2012 and 2013 as they either release statistics per anniversary or per year.

    well it is why the chartz would be better if we can see what people created every month or their play time for every race or gender, i am nearly sure than human, elf and castanic was created in 2012 and than in 2013 the % elin of was increased and the 3 others was decreased

    how many of these players who created human, elf an castanic was continue to play those races and how many had reroll to elin in 2013 ?
  • 5H96Y49G6D5H96Y49G6D ✭✭✭
    vkobe wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Scarmark wrote: »
    People say that would cost too much to make animations for more than 1 type of body, but BhS really has so little budget to not making just one more kit of that could be pretty similar to each other? even clothes, or new hairs, they are the same race, it would not be hard, and i doubt it would be too priced for them to make it, this thing about "cost too much to do" only applies if they do a classe to all races and genders.
    They have an extremely small team, and to get the class for two different genders in a reasonable time frame would require them to have a larger team.
    Schwerpunkt wrote: »
    counterpoint wrote: »
    The measure of popularity they're basing this on is taking this into account and adjusting for it, and considering trends before all these new classes started too. Female characters are more popular globally than male characters, though less so here and in Europe. It's not based on a self-fulfilling caused by their continued release of female classes.
    That's complete [filtered] though.

    If they released a male-only OP class, it would be as popular as any of the female-only classes simply because it's a new OP class. People would start making male characters like crazy because they want to play the class, and males would become far more popular.

    I can't imagine many more people would have refused to make Brawlers if they were male-only than those who refused because they were female-only, so it is a self-fulfilling thing that BHS is continuing. Female characters were more popular initially, then that popularity grew further as the female-only classes were released and BHS seemingly refuses to look past that.

    It's not since Elin/Female were already popular before Reaper was added, for what you say to be true they would have had to be equal before Reaper was added... but they weren't. Just look at healers, as someone already pointed out, how many of them are Elins/Female? Quite a lot of them. A lot of the non-raced/gender locked classes are still in fact Elin/Female. How many people play Female Amani on those classes? Oh right, nearly no one. Same goes for Popori, and Male Amani. Human Male also isn't that popular due to how they look. Most people weren't even aware of the imbalance of animations either and they still chose Elin. Even where Castanic is better, there's still Elin picked. You, and the others here, may not like Elins/Females, but no need to pretend you represent what the majority likes. The player base decided which races and genders they preferred by playing the game and not posting on forums. It doesn't matter if every forum thread hates what they're doing when most people playing the game generally don't even care enough.

    actually thats quite wrong, elin was not popular prior to the reaper, it was like only higher that popo, baraka and amani i do believe also gender dispersion was along hte lines of 55-45 in favor of female yes but it was basically quite even with elin being unpopular here. after hte reaper and its broken release state the balance shifted and elins became popular, then they started releasin elin only costumes etc.

    i joined tera before reaper release and i saw more elin than oher races and anyway you dont know what koreans and japaneses played before reaper release

    what you see may and is not everything, the company posted actual statistics and still posts yearly.

    yes and your chartz was in 2012 and reaper was released in 2014 and this chartz was only for western market and if i remember only castanic was more popular than elin here

    elin was below elves, human and castanics, those were the only stats provided pre reaper on the one year anniversary, those stats were released in 2013 for the year may 1st 2012 to 2013 not for 2012 alone. elins only gained popularity with the reaper and with the elin exlcusive costumes, if you take away all of that they probably would still be one of the least favored races, they have more exclusive costumes, a broken pve class and a broken pvp class.

    the chartz said for 2012, i dont remember the year 2013, else proove it than it include the whole 2013 too

    i only see castanic be more popular than elin in this chartz

    and like i said it was only for western market

    er yeah I think so too Castanic was the popular vote well imo doesn't matter even if it wasn't gender locked anyway....
  • kknaexkknaex ✭✭
    Reaper is by far the only gender lock race that makes sense of themselves.
    An Aman with dual sickle which combine to make a cute heart shape icon? Nooo
    A Baraka become so jumpy he throw a cable and jump at u then jump 3 more times for every attack? NOOO
    Any male class put their weapon back and they look like a pair of pretty wings?NOOO

    Reapers are cool and girly the same time, pretty suitable for Elin only.
    Gunners? Nope, muscular guys with big gunners make more senses.
    Brawler? Dude we have a male brawler NPC and he can one shot Darkran with a single punch.
    Ninja? We know them well, and we know we r not female locked already.
    Now the moon dancer, come on the concept itself is from a male hero from ancient Chinese History, along with the weapon.
    Any Female only class after reaper look non-immersive and forced,
  • kknaexkknaex ✭✭
    Scarmark wrote: »
    Splinter257 wrote: »
    I thought we figured this out when they announced they would restart the cycle of Elin>femcast>femelf>femhuman>elin right before ninja came out? I think it's time to let it rest... I, for one, have finally submitted to our Elin overlords. At least the Elin archer backstep is cool.

    If they will keep this female thing, they should at least give female amani a class too

    female amani ? Unless they add new body type, face and hair style to make them more human.
    Otherwise I dont think they will be treated as Female.
    I actaully look into an Dragon Anthro type female char.
  • kknaexkknaex ✭✭
    Aulon wrote: »
    cheekibreeki wrote: »
    Something else that actually makes sense to me is that it would be more expensive to develop a new class for all races. Locking in on one cuts down on how many animations they have to do, costume options, etc. That being said, I think that they could at least have race-restricted rather than gender-restricted. The Elin ones actually make sense, as Reaper fits pretty seamlessly into the lore. But Gunner and Brawler could have EASILY had male counterparts.

    Not true, you have no idea how hard it is to get a Castanic Man to wear a shirt let alone an exoskeleton in order to support the re coil of that gun.

    True, Cast males, if using big gunners, will mostly likely wearing skin tight armor and twerk heir [filtered] just like female counterpart.
  • kknaexkknaex ✭✭
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Scarmark wrote: »
    People say that would cost too much to make animations for more than 1 type of body, but BhS really has so little budget to not making just one more kit of that could be pretty similar to each other? even clothes, or new hairs, they are the same race, it would not be hard, and i doubt it would be too priced for them to make it, this thing about "cost too much to do" only applies if they do a classe to all races and genders.
    They have an extremely small team, and to get the class for two different genders in a reasonable time frame would require them to have a larger team.
    Schwerpunkt wrote: »
    counterpoint wrote: »
    The measure of popularity they're basing this on is taking this into account and adjusting for it, and considering trends before all these new classes started too. Female characters are more popular globally than male characters, though less so here and in Europe. It's not based on a self-fulfilling caused by their continued release of female classes.
    That's complete [filtered] though.

    If they released a male-only OP class, it would be as popular as any of the female-only classes simply because it's a new OP class. People would start making male characters like crazy because they want to play the class, and males would become far more popular.

    I can't imagine many more people would have refused to make Brawlers if they were male-only than those who refused because they were female-only, so it is a self-fulfilling thing that BHS is continuing. Female characters were more popular initially, then that popularity grew further as the female-only classes were released and BHS seemingly refuses to look past that.

    It's not since Elin/Female were already popular before Reaper was added, for what you say to be true they would have had to be equal before Reaper was added... but they weren't. Just look at healers, as someone already pointed out, how many of them are Elins/Female? Quite a lot of them. A lot of the non-raced/gender locked classes are still in fact Elin/Female. How many people play Female Amani on those classes? Oh right, nearly no one. Same goes for Popori, and Male Amani. Human Male also isn't that popular due to how they look. Most people weren't even aware of the imbalance of animations either and they still chose Elin. Even where Castanic is better, there's still Elin picked. You, and the others here, may not like Elins/Females, but no need to pretend you represent what the majority likes. The player base decided which races and genders they preferred by playing the game and not posting on forums. It doesn't matter if every forum thread hates what they're doing when most people playing the game generally don't even care enough.

    actually thats quite wrong, elin was not popular prior to the reaper, it was like only higher that popo, baraka and amani i do believe also gender dispersion was along hte lines of 55-45 in favor of female yes but it was basically quite even with elin being unpopular here. after hte reaper and its broken release state the balance shifted and elins became popular, then they started releasin elin only costumes etc.

    Nope, ELin saved Tera's life in other servers
    way before Reaper release
    And I started Tera on 2012 and I always see alot elins.
    I dont know where your idea even come from.
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    kknaex wrote: »
    Ninja? We know them well, and we know we r not female locked already.
    Now the moon dancer, come on the concept itself is from a male hero from ancient Chinese History, along with the weapon.

    so leonidas is an ancient chinese ?
  • sanj66sanj66 ✭✭✭✭
    kknaex wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Scarmark wrote: »
    People say that would cost too much to make animations for more than 1 type of body, but BhS really has so little budget to not making just one more kit of that could be pretty similar to each other? even clothes, or new hairs, they are the same race, it would not be hard, and i doubt it would be too priced for them to make it, this thing about "cost too much to do" only applies if they do a classe to all races and genders.
    They have an extremely small team, and to get the class for two different genders in a reasonable time frame would require them to have a larger team.
    Schwerpunkt wrote: »
    counterpoint wrote: »
    The measure of popularity they're basing this on is taking this into account and adjusting for it, and considering trends before all these new classes started too. Female characters are more popular globally than male characters, though less so here and in Europe. It's not based on a self-fulfilling caused by their continued release of female classes.
    That's complete [filtered] though.

    If they released a male-only OP class, it would be as popular as any of the female-only classes simply because it's a new OP class. People would start making male characters like crazy because they want to play the class, and males would become far more popular.

    I can't imagine many more people would have refused to make Brawlers if they were male-only than those who refused because they were female-only, so it is a self-fulfilling thing that BHS is continuing. Female characters were more popular initially, then that popularity grew further as the female-only classes were released and BHS seemingly refuses to look past that.

    It's not since Elin/Female were already popular before Reaper was added, for what you say to be true they would have had to be equal before Reaper was added... but they weren't. Just look at healers, as someone already pointed out, how many of them are Elins/Female? Quite a lot of them. A lot of the non-raced/gender locked classes are still in fact Elin/Female. How many people play Female Amani on those classes? Oh right, nearly no one. Same goes for Popori, and Male Amani. Human Male also isn't that popular due to how they look. Most people weren't even aware of the imbalance of animations either and they still chose Elin. Even where Castanic is better, there's still Elin picked. You, and the others here, may not like Elins/Females, but no need to pretend you represent what the majority likes. The player base decided which races and genders they preferred by playing the game and not posting on forums. It doesn't matter if every forum thread hates what they're doing when most people playing the game generally don't even care enough.

    actually thats quite wrong, elin was not popular prior to the reaper, it was like only higher that popo, baraka and amani i do believe also gender dispersion was along hte lines of 55-45 in favor of female yes but it was basically quite even with elin being unpopular here. after hte reaper and its broken release state the balance shifted and elins became popular, then they started releasin elin only costumes etc.

    Nope, ELin saved Tera's life in other servers
    way before Reaper release
    And I started Tera on 2012 and I always see alot elins.
    I dont know where your idea even come from.

    yet another vkobe version 2.0 read the dam posts, those are official statistics from the publisher company itself they were not popular overall prior to the reaper release. elin swimsuit sale saved jtera how does that translate to forcing that onto every other server that was not failing and had that race as a minority? some of you really need to understand english......
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    sanj66 wrote: »
    kknaex wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Scarmark wrote: »
    People say that would cost too much to make animations for more than 1 type of body, but BhS really has so little budget to not making just one more kit of that could be pretty similar to each other? even clothes, or new hairs, they are the same race, it would not be hard, and i doubt it would be too priced for them to make it, this thing about "cost too much to do" only applies if they do a classe to all races and genders.
    They have an extremely small team, and to get the class for two different genders in a reasonable time frame would require them to have a larger team.
    Schwerpunkt wrote: »
    counterpoint wrote: »
    The measure of popularity they're basing this on is taking this into account and adjusting for it, and considering trends before all these new classes started too. Female characters are more popular globally than male characters, though less so here and in Europe. It's not based on a self-fulfilling caused by their continued release of female classes.
    That's complete [filtered] though.

    If they released a male-only OP class, it would be as popular as any of the female-only classes simply because it's a new OP class. People would start making male characters like crazy because they want to play the class, and males would become far more popular.

    I can't imagine many more people would have refused to make Brawlers if they were male-only than those who refused because they were female-only, so it is a self-fulfilling thing that BHS is continuing. Female characters were more popular initially, then that popularity grew further as the female-only classes were released and BHS seemingly refuses to look past that.

    It's not since Elin/Female were already popular before Reaper was added, for what you say to be true they would have had to be equal before Reaper was added... but they weren't. Just look at healers, as someone already pointed out, how many of them are Elins/Female? Quite a lot of them. A lot of the non-raced/gender locked classes are still in fact Elin/Female. How many people play Female Amani on those classes? Oh right, nearly no one. Same goes for Popori, and Male Amani. Human Male also isn't that popular due to how they look. Most people weren't even aware of the imbalance of animations either and they still chose Elin. Even where Castanic is better, there's still Elin picked. You, and the others here, may not like Elins/Females, but no need to pretend you represent what the majority likes. The player base decided which races and genders they preferred by playing the game and not posting on forums. It doesn't matter if every forum thread hates what they're doing when most people playing the game generally don't even care enough.

    actually thats quite wrong, elin was not popular prior to the reaper, it was like only higher that popo, baraka and amani i do believe also gender dispersion was along hte lines of 55-45 in favor of female yes but it was basically quite even with elin being unpopular here. after hte reaper and its broken release state the balance shifted and elins became popular, then they started releasin elin only costumes etc.

    Nope, ELin saved Tera's life in other servers
    way before Reaper release
    And I started Tera on 2012 and I always see alot elins.
    I dont know where your idea even come from.

    yet another vkobe version 2.0 read the dam posts, those are official statistics from the publisher company itself they were not popular overall prior to the reaper release. elin swimsuit sale saved jtera how does that translate to forcing that onto every other server that was not failing and had that race as a minority? some of you really need to understand english......

    vkobe version 1.0 say to you than you can made number say anything, especially if you are unable to have datas for every month or who continue to play tera and who reroll to elin in 2013

    i am sure so many players create male and elf, castanic and human when tera was released in 2012

    the unknow data is in 2013, how many reroll to elin or stop to play tera ?

    and it is not as you know the data in korea

    and obviously these males, humans, elf and catsanic was unable to keep tera alive in p2p, so they went to f2p and it was elin who took control of tera fate after that, i feel it is because our fail to keep tera in p2p if they choose to made gender lock

    so i ask you what your elf, human, castanic and male did in 2012 to stop tera to went in f2p ?
  • BorsucBorsuc ✭✭✭
    It's not like the majority of MMOs are f2p these days with p2p a very small minority. Elins must be the reason indeed. Please.
  • MahavalaMahavala ✭✭
    Pretty sure that trying to talk about how baffling BHS's decisions are is pointless. Yes, there is no return anymore, and the very last thing that this game needed now is a new female only class, honestly even a male class (or both gender) is not what Tera need now.

    I could write a giant list of items absolutely necessary - even urgent - that BHS needed to focus right now, but after seeing what we have stored for our future... I am done, done with supporting Tera, with trying to keep my few friends here, to cuddle their mistakes, to hope that will get better. It is not EME's fault and despite their mistakes, if there's anything good that Tera had is it's NA publisher that managed to keep the game going for so long in a fair and fun way for their players.

    Playing since CBT1, after this """"new""""" """""""""""""""""content""""""""""""""""" announced (recolored Kaprima and Celestial Arena+Bloodshards """"new dungeons"""""), I finally give up.
  • InamorataInamorata ✭✭
    vkobe wrote: »
    kknaex wrote: »
    Ninja? We know them well, and we know we r not female locked already.
    Now the moon dancer, come on the concept itself is from a male hero from ancient Chinese History, along with the weapon.

    so leonidas is an ancient chinese ?

    Dont confuse an Hoplite with a polearm foot soldier, they have zero in common besides being foot soldier's.



    By now the trend that BHS as created goes beyond female only classes, it departs completely from the original style and even lore to some extent, from the game in its origin. The last two classes fall more on asian themes, becoming irrelevant to the original fantasy of the game, its almost a free for all...do your own fantasy thing.

    This new class even goes as far breaking away with old Castanic lore, where Castanics turn on they're own brethren.

    BHS is obviously catering for they region, Korea and Japan. Its a new kind of game, borrowing from its past.
  • Deleted UserDeleted User
    I'm pretty sure BHS said they will never make a class for males, only elin and female, this was back in june or july.
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    Inamorata wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    kknaex wrote: »
    Ninja? We know them well, and we know we r not female locked already.
    Now the moon dancer, come on the concept itself is from a male hero from ancient Chinese History, along with the weapon.

    so leonidas is an ancient chinese ?

    Dont confuse an Hoplite with a polearm foot soldier, they have zero in common besides being foot soldier's.


    i am sure he used a pole arm to kill this wolf ;)
  • InamorataInamorata ✭✭
    vkobe wrote: »
    Inamorata wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    kknaex wrote: »
    Ninja? We know them well, and we know we r not female locked already.
    Now the moon dancer, come on the concept itself is from a male hero from ancient Chinese History, along with the weapon.

    so leonidas is an ancient chinese ?

    Dont confuse an Hoplite with a polearm foot soldier, they have zero in common besides being foot soldier's.


    i am sure he used a pole arm to kill this wolf ;)

    And a "Dory" and "Aspis" to kill many more persians with a few greeks, as good measure. Hense..."hoplite", with spear and oval shield, in coordinated formation, without any funky two hand polearm weapon.
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